Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

Only played about 10 hands with CO at this point. He's raised preflop once. Apart from that he's done little more than fold. Button is very loose and spastic sometimes.

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero ?

Can I call here?

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

7:1 how many outs do you need? How many outs do you have?

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

I think the answer turns on how much we have to discount the OC outs and how much credit we can give to implied odds with our 4 GS outs. The diamond 9 is occassionally but not often a problem.

IMO the OC discount is pretty big so a fold may be the most prudent but a call is not a huge mistake with 2 villains either.

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

meh call

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

call, I think at least one of ur pair outs is often good enuff along with ur GS.

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

I think you can comfortably call this.

The river gets a bit tricky if you make your hand. I think we have to lead regardless of what hand we hit. I would love to check/raise, but I don't think we can rely on the unknown CO to bet again.

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

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I think you can comfortably call this.

The river gets a bit tricky if you make your hand. I think we have to lead regardless of what hand we hit. I would love to check/raise, but I don't think we can rely on the unknown CO to bet again.

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I am calling and leading any 9, J, or Q.

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

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I am calling and leading any 9, J, or Q.

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QFT

Re: Call with GS+OCs? (shorthanded)
 

yea i call, i give u like 6 outs here and i think you can a marginally +EV call here with implied odds