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joseki 11-18-2007 12:17 AM

AA...a new leaf
 
Button is 21/15/2.7, I've been playing about the same and getting good respect, so far.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50)
Button ($48.75)
SB ($50)
BB ($64.25)
UTG ($34.80)
Hero ($52.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $10</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($25.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20.5</font>, Hero folds.

I know I should raise more preflop, but I'm lazy and use that stupid button sometimes.

OSUGreg1983 11-18-2007 12:21 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
Preflop is fine. If you raise to 2.25 with AA and 1.75 with 1010, aware players will pick up on it. Stay consistent with respect to the amount of limpers.

3 bet the flop to find out where you're truly at. Sometimes i look for a timing tell from min raises, often you find A10/K10/Q10/J10 in this spot. You're asking to get bet into the on the turn, c/r here.

n4rf 11-18-2007 12:24 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
I was minraised in a very similar situation, villain was testing the waters with his 88 on a 5-2-5 flop. I had 99 and I didn't give him credit for a monster hand. He had similar stats, sort of TAG'ish. I repopped him on the flop AI and he called.

Bottom line: Some people just don't give you credit when rag flops show up.

Kimo White Devil 11-18-2007 12:27 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
stack off and reload (3bet flop, or shove over turn bet)... or double up or just make 10$ on flop.

put your money in it please!!!

slush420 11-18-2007 12:28 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
this is played fine. shoving turn is probably OK also.

gfejs 11-18-2007 12:37 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
The button seems solid and I would prolly play this about the same, but I think its a leak...

3-betting this flop would commit you too stack off imo, but just calling would meen u almost turned your cards face up. Villian could have jj-aa or a set here very often. I have no idea how too play this hand so IŽll just stop writing now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But if was shoving I would do it on the flop.

joseki 11-18-2007 12:41 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
This is the first time I've ever made a fold like this. I haven't stacked off to a set in a while, so it's not tilt. I'm really tired, so maybe that's part of it.

He might be holding a suited T but I think he'd make a bigger raise or just call most of those. Certainly in his range, but must be discounted some. The min-raise invites a committing 3bet, or hopes for a free turn (76s, ATs, etc.). When he bets the turn I think he has a set or 76 far more often than AT.

Board: Tc 6d 5h 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 63.603% 63.60% 00.00% 1931 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 36.397% 36.40% 00.00% 1105 0.00 { JJ-44, AQs-AJs, AhTh, AsTs, KQs, QJs, JhTh, JsTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s }

I'm getting something like 1:1.6 if it goes in. Meh, I don't know, just thought I'd see what others thought.

billip62 11-18-2007 01:04 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
to be honest I want to claw my eyes out with a spoon. laying do aces here short of divine intervention should be against the law.

if god didn't tell you he has 1010, I need a really good reason why you folded.

Monster207 11-18-2007 01:14 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
I'm really thinking you need to reraise the flop. I'd try to get in on the flop but I could be entirely wrong, is villain willing to stack off with tptk? I also think you'll see QQ and JJ here on occasion, people don't always 3bet them when in position. Like to hear some other thoughts/lines as well.

Lego05 11-18-2007 01:24 AM

Re: AA...a new leaf
 
Call flop is fine. But then check-raise the turn.

Why would you call flop ten check/fold turn? He's gonna bet the turn like 95% of the time after you check.


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