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Profish2285 11-17-2007 12:19 PM

QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
No reads on villain

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($11.60)
UTG ($97.05)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($123.40)</font>
CO ($151.05)
Button ($100)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($137.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $18.

Flop: ($51.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, MP calls $25.

Turn: ($101.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero....

11-17-2007 12:25 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
I would bet more on flop, about 35$. He either has TT-JJ here or is slowplaying AA, no way to find out, so I think you have to go broke here.

gregorio 11-17-2007 12:34 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
What limit is this hand? It says $1BB (which means you posted in wrong forum--&gt;small stakes), or are you in the right forum and this is NL50, which it looks like from the size of the open and 3bet. Because if this is 250BB deep at NL50, you don't want to go broke with that size stack.

Pool_Lou 11-17-2007 12:35 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
I would shove here.
Villain has around 70$ left, what makes a nice 2/3 size pot bet on the turn...

If villian had AA-KK he would have 5bet preflop or re-raised the flop.

That 8 didn't help him (in the odd case he flopped top-set, he had you already on the flop),but would he 3bet with that hand?
There is already about half his/your's stack in the pot, the turn didn't change anything, so go on and bet.

I think checking here is wrong, who knows he has AK, checks behind and a K or A come's on the river, than what?

Greetz.

Profish2285 11-17-2007 12:39 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
Its NL100 but I like posting here and have since I started playing so I didnt think it was a big deal.

Daniel LeClaire 11-17-2007 12:53 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would shove here.
Villain has around 70$ left, what makes a nice 2/3 size pot bet on the turn...

If villian had AA-KK he would have 5bet preflop or re-raised the flop.

That 8 didn't help him (in the odd case he flopped top-set, he had you already on the flop),but would he 3bet with that hand?
There is already about half his/your's stack in the pot, the turn didn't change anything, so go on and bet.

I think checking here is wrong, who knows he has AK, checks behind and a K or A come's on the river, than what?

Greetz.

[/ QUOTE ]

What he said.

gregorio 11-17-2007 12:53 PM

Re: QQ 3 bet pot ragged board
 
[ QUOTE ]
Its NL100 but I like posting here and have since I started playing so I didnt think it was a big deal.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not a big deal, just wondering because the PF min raise and 3bet size were so horrible for NL100, and, to be honest, I have no idea how this plays out at 100NL. At 50NL, i think you are behind always here once you get your 4bet called, because I have never had a 4bet called by worse than KK. I wonder if your 4bet size isn't too small. I realize it is 4xs size of 3bet, but 3bet was tiny since open raise was so small. In 50NL I have never made a 4bet &lt; $18, and that would translate to $36 in 100NL. Maybe your 4bet looks really weak. Like I said, I don't know the 100NL game at all, but a 4bet to $12 in NL50, which is the equiv of your 4bet at 100NL, looks really fishy to me.


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