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Aquadougs 11-16-2007 11:13 AM

NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $59.95
Hero (SB): $102
BB: $37.85
UTG: $98.50
MP: $187.80
CO: $113.78

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($11) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>

Im very sure he has an unimproved small pocket pair here, because I dont think he would raised with a full house. Im I right?
Should i fold, call or 3bet here?

sightless 11-16-2007 11:14 AM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
most of the time I muck here

Aquadougs 11-16-2007 11:29 AM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
But if i think i would fold more than 50% of the times, shouldnt I put in a potsized 3bet here?

Chicago Twister 11-16-2007 11:39 AM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
I don't see how we can muck here getting better than 4:1. Readless I dont think we can push (he has to fold 50%+ of the time). But we should be able to call. Stop &amp; go a lot of turns that appear to help our range/hurt his range. Check-raise a lot of turns that actually do help our range.

The B 11-16-2007 11:45 AM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
check flop...then you can see free card on turn or find out where he is w/ check-raise

optionsguy 11-16-2007 11:52 AM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
check flop with intention of raising or getting a free card. if it checks through, check/fold unimproved turn.

Chicago Twister 11-16-2007 12:02 PM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
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check flop with intention of raising or getting a free card. if it checks through, check/fold unimproved turn.

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that's results-oriented thinking. cbetting this flop is std.

Daddy Warbucks 11-16-2007 12:05 PM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
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I don't see how we can muck here getting better than 4:1.

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Because we're OOP with A in a medium sized pot with about a 10% chance to improve on the turn and otherwise no idea where we stand in the hand.

Chicago Twister 11-16-2007 12:07 PM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
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I don't see how we can muck here getting better than 4:1.

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Because we're OOP with A in a medium sized pot with about a 10% chance to improve on the turn and otherwise no idea where we stand in the hand.

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meh. i think we know exactly where we stand in the hand, and we have a better than 10% chance to improve on the turn because we don't need an Ace or a King. A Queen and to a lesser degree a Jack will do nicely.

Daddy Warbucks 11-16-2007 12:09 PM

Re: NL100: AKs OOP against limp-call
 
Really? And whats villain holding?


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