NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt me.
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($53.90)
Button ($24.30) <font color="blue"> stats: 11/11/1.2 ~80 hands</font>
SB ($50.60) <font color="blue"> stats: 20/17/3 ~80 hands</font>
Hero ($74.05)
UTG ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $3.55, Button calls $2.55.

Flop: ($11.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6.6</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $26.5</font>, Button calls $5.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($52.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($52.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $52.65

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
Button has 6s 6c (full house, sixes full of jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $52.65. SB wins $6. </font>


I don't see the SB 3bet light here. I figure the SB 3betting range is TT+,AQs+,AKo. My jacks are 44% against this range.

I think a 4bet is out of question. Stacks are deep, so I was pondering a call for set value, However the nit button is still behind to act who might wake up and shove every so often. Also the smalish reraise from the SB rings an alarm bell.

Is it correct to overcall and take a shot at the SB's stack, especially that I have a very good notion of SB's range here? Hell, I'm not yet ready to trust my reads and might go broke on a 349r flop.

Critisism.

Re: NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt
 

folding pf is fine. dont be results oriented. your reasons for folding are all very valid.

Re: NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt
 

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folding pf is fine. dont be results oriented. your reasons for folding are all very valid.

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Huh? Take a second look please.


IMO folding here sucks. First off sb seems like a TAG from his stats and he is 3betting your button raise and you have JJ. This should be a good enough hand to call here.

Second off effective stack is 200BB's (both villians and hero are 200+BB's deep) and there's plenty of room to setmine here anyway.


Folding pre-flop looks pretty bad to me in this spot.

Re: NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt
 

I'm not on the button. I'm in the BB and have MP,and Button behind. However, yeah, I might gambool some more.

Re: NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt
 

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I'm not on the button. I'm in the BB and have MP,and Button behind. However, yeah, I might gambool some more.

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Oh ok yea folding is fine. Wow I really misread that hand.


I wonder though if calling is better. Obviously the problem is that button can 4bet. But so deep I wonder. I probably do fold though. I wouldn't fold QQ though.

Re: NL25: JJ tough preflop spot. Missed quads for a triple up. Untilt
 

I call to see a flop. If button re-raises then I'll let the hand go. But yeah, mainly I'm calling hoping to hit a set. I think the SB's stack is deep enough to warrant a call.