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ShowUthExit 11-15-2007 06:10 PM

FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
MP2 is a solid player, CO is uknown

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Donkament
Blinds: $80/$160
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5690
UTG+1: $3357
MP1: $5320
MP2: $6728
MP3: $2321
CO: $5487
Button: $4580
SB: $5938
Hero: $5793

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($960, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $475</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3200

like? Or should I always be leading here?

Bond18 11-15-2007 08:35 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
Lead flop!

PBFan 11-15-2007 08:37 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
lead because if he checks then the turn would def be a scare card.

zizazziza 11-15-2007 08:39 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
LEAD!!!!! but looks like you're going broke as played

fsoyars 11-15-2007 09:23 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
I pretty much always lead out here for at least 700 and jam it over a single raiser.

JesseB_11 11-15-2007 09:34 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
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Lead flop!

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ShowUthExit 11-15-2007 10:14 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
K I usually do lead out from the blinds with a strong hand but isnt it ok to sometimes check raise?? Like, what percentage of the time do you lead compared to c/r. In this spot it was a 6way pot so theres a great chance that someone will bet at it.... and I can come over the top and get some more chips while discouraging some draws.

Am I retarded?

furfur 11-15-2007 11:50 PM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
1. Lead flop b/c there is a chance that it will get checked through and you will not like ANY turn card.
2. You're check raise was for too much. You don't mind a caller as long as he's not getting the proper odds. Something like 1700 would have been better and may have induced a reraise by a weaker or drawing hand but b/c you have essentially pot-committed yourself, that's not going to happen.

Astyanax 11-16-2007 12:20 AM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
I have one question for you.

On this board (I know there are 2 Diamonds), do you honestly think he stacks off with 9K 9A to your over-raise?

I think this is truly horrible, no offense!

JesseB_11 11-16-2007 12:32 AM

Re: FTP 32k, flop bottom 2pair
 
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K I usually do lead out from the blinds with a strong hand but isnt it ok to sometimes check raise?? Like, what percentage of the time do you lead compared to c/r. In this spot it was a 6way pot so theres a great chance that someone will bet at it.... and I can come over the top and get some more chips while discouraging some draws.

Am I retarded?

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A bet here may induce a raise in which you can 3 bet all in. On this type of flop with that hand I'm trying to get in as much money as possible on the flop because all turn cards suck.


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