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Montezuma21 11-15-2007 04:04 PM

200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
very first hand at the table. all villains unknown.

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $134.58
BB: $60
UTG: $200
MP: $40
Hero (CO): $200
BTN: $205

UTG posts $2
MP posts $2
Hero posts $2
Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $11, 3 folds
<font color="blue"> Hero posts after UTG and UTG+1. A4o is at the very very bottom of my raising range here. not sure it's +EV but there's a ton of dead money in the pot and my position is good.</font>
Flop: ($30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks
<font color="blue"> I debate betting here but i think my hand has more value as a bluff catcher here and i might get more value by checking flop. really not sure about this. </font>
Turn: ($30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10
<font color="blue"> standard i think. villain could be bluffing/value betting worse and there's no value in raising. </font>
River: ($50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>
<font color="blue"> Given the fact that i've played so weak on previous streets i think there's some value in value betting hoping to get called by 99/TT, no? or do i usually get called by better (ie Ax)?</font>

SnglMaltScotch 11-15-2007 04:46 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
I don't see any value on the river. I doubt you get called by worse and see Ax a lot.

SMS

agnoke10 11-15-2007 04:51 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
i love this line until the river, you get 0 value from worse hands IMO, just check behind

En Passant 11-15-2007 04:53 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
I disagree. I think small pocket pairs look you up here, while an ace our queen will bet.

Chaos_ult 11-15-2007 04:57 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
I'd rather just bet the flop since that fits better into my overall gameplan.

Dire 11-15-2007 05:18 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
Looks good. The river looks very thin, but given the situation (poster on poster) I think you get looked up by any pair and a Q would have probably bet the river.

Paul Thomson 11-15-2007 05:21 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
FLOP is GOOT. Betting the river is also goot.

Paul Thomson 11-15-2007 05:23 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd rather just bet the flop since that fits better into my overall gameplan.

[/ QUOTE ]

you should fit in some checking behind into your gameplan then. if you're firing 100% of the time on the flop, then you're gameplan is exploitable.

Chaos_ult 11-15-2007 05:24 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
Well i'm checking some of the time obviously.

I'd RATHER just bet the flop though.

Paul Thomson 11-15-2007 05:33 PM

Re: 200NL: TPNK plays pot control on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well i'm checking some of the time obviously.

I'd RATHER just bet the flop though.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? I'd rather check behind here nearly all the time.


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