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cassette 11-15-2007 03:01 PM

I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
I haven't been too out of line but am more aggro than the rest of the table. Playing about 22/17. CO isn't very spewy, doesn't read hands well, playing 40/15 over 100 hands.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

CO: $1794
BU: $1164
SB(Hero): $1191

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $18</font>, Button calls, <font color="red">Hero raises to $83</font>, BB folds, CO calls, Button folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($190, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $130</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($450, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $155</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $485</font>,

Herechski 11-15-2007 05:42 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
Your raises are roughly 3.5-4x bet and in good relation to the size of the pot. His initial raise was 3x the BB, typical standard play...but only 2x the pot. I'd like to see his range though, he could be playing Ax, 22, JJ-AA. I smell small pair that turned trips, or he's playing the straight draw.

Even if he has you beat with a set or a straight atm you have excellent odds to win (assuming all your cards are live). Based on how you described him, if he's on any kind of a draw he should fold.

That being said, you've risked $701 on this hand so far. If he pushes, can you get away from it if you think you are beat?

markuisis 11-15-2007 05:54 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
against described player id just call, dont try and make him lay down an overpair or better and ur getting great odds to call.

Renton 11-15-2007 06:40 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
i don't understand the point of 3betting preflop with a hand like this vs a player like that.

I would just c/c the turn.

cassette 11-15-2007 07:12 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
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i don't understand the point of 3betting preflop with a hand like this vs a player like that.



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My reasoning was that he is opening a wide range from the cutoff, button has nothing and picking up the $40 in the pot is huge. I probably could have 3b bigger though since we are so deep.

Renton 11-15-2007 07:17 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
yeah but he is so bad and he's gonna force you to make hands, so why not at least do this with hands that flop decent pairs?

cassette 11-15-2007 07:20 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
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against described player id just call, dont try and make him lay down an overpair or better and ur getting great odds to call.

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I can see an argument for c/c but I'm not sure it's best. Being a poor hand reader I don't see him hero calling with 88 or whatever. If I c/c I am drawing to 9 unclean outs. With a raise he essentially has to fold his entire range except 77 and maybe sets.

DMoogle 11-15-2007 07:20 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
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yeah but he is so bad and he's gonna force you to make hands, so why not at least do this with hands that flop decent pairs?

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QFE. The most important point of 3-betting light is folding equity. And guys who play "40/15" don't like to fold preflop.

cassette 11-15-2007 07:23 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
I would rather be 3 betting 86s than AJ or KQ. I'm not going to be dominated, I can flop huge/a huge draw and it's easy to get away from when I miss. I would think I take this down 95%+ of the time with a 3b and cbet.

DMoogle 11-15-2007 07:25 PM

Re: I get a little carried away with a squeeze
 
95%+? Then you should be 3-betting literally any two cards.


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