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Phaze 1 11-15-2007 04:36 AM

Do I go broke here everytime??
 
Ok been at the table a while and been playing standard TAG. No real reads on villan except that hes not a complete donkey.

PokerStars Game #13250760254: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/15 - 02:58:36 (ET)
Table 'Sargas V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Whappert ($17.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Hey Mate ($44.80 in chips)
Seat 3: BaiZi ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Gen0side ($60.65 in chips)
Seat 6: RayRay22111 ($14.55 in chips)
Hey Mate: posts small blind $0.25
BaiZi: posts big blind $0.50
caesar321: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gen0side [Kc Kh]
Gen0side: raises $1.50 to $2
RayRay22111: folds
Whappert: folds
Hey Mate: calls $1.75
BaiZi: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3d 6h]
Hey Mate: checks
BaiZi: checks
Gen0side: bets $4.50
Hey Mate: calls $4.50
BaiZi: raises $3 to $7.50 and is all-in
Gen0side: calls $3
Hey Mate: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Qd 3d 6h] [2s]
Hey Mate: checks
Gen0side: bets $15
Hey Mate: raises $20.30 to $35.30 and is all-in
Gen0side: calls $20.30
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3d 6h 2s] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hey Mate: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces)
Gen0side: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
Hey Mate collected $70 from side pot
BaiZi: mucks hand
Hey Mate collected $27.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $99.10 Main pot $27.10. Side pot $70. | Rake $2
Board [Qd 3d 6h 2s Th]
Seat 1: Whappert (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hey Mate (small blind) showed [Ac Ad] and won ($97.10) with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: BaiZi (big blind) mucked [8h 3c]
Seat 4: Gen0side showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: RayRay22111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I'm posting this cause its come up a few times during my time at stars and I'm wondering if anyone takes a different line or thinks I don't have to go broke here pretty much always. This is my 1st post obv so sorry its its not upto standard.

hendal 11-15-2007 05:05 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
Go broke.

Use handconverter.

Edmuntus 11-15-2007 05:08 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
Different line: yes. go broke: as well. Not to much you can do about this. If aces are played this way, then its to bad. I would probably shove the flop to isolate.

herbstl 11-15-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
I shove the Flop too. you go broke here all the time - folding in this spot is terrible

Phaze 1 11-15-2007 05:25 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
yeah shoving the flop would be fine if I wasn't forced to call the non raise from the shortstack. Does anyone check behind on the turn as an alternative? I'm being results orientated but this happens to me much more that I would like. Is slowplaying aa the norm in nl50?

Edmuntus 11-15-2007 06:43 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
Ow. Youre right. Because Baizi is short and I expect him to push (he is getting awesome odds) I either bet 3.75 (which is exactly half his stack) or bet his stack.

This way, an observant player can see I could come over the top. Slowplaying AA in a 3-way pot is about as bad as it gets. However, there is one shortie. He could have check-raised from the SB. But this way, you probably go broke. Quite risky though.

docnuclear 11-15-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
meh I go broke w KK vs AA every time and feel v good about it. Don't worry.

monkover 11-15-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
lol 50nl--> unl

nanamar05 11-15-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
you sound very sad. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

jordiepop 11-15-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Do I go broke here everytime??
 
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