As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $153
BTN: $139.10
SB: $296.10
BB: $195
UTG: $69
Hero (UTG+1): $213.10
MP1: $206.70
MP2: $43

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, MP1 calls $7, 5 folds


Villian is 15/10/8 and I only have 120 hands recorded with him. He has never just cold called a pre flop raise. I figure he has a mid pair and a very small chance he has A's, K's or Q's. The game is tight and perhaps he doesn't want to lose players. Most likely I think he has a mid pair though

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $12, MP1 raises to $30,

Hero?

Re: As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

super standard shove. whats the question?

Re: As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

well his range is probably a little wider than just midpairs, maybe small pairs and midpairs. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

either way im still shoving. you have at least 12 outs yo! (and some FE vs stuff like 88)

Re: As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

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super standard shove. whats the question?

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I don't think its as simple as superstandardshove. Obv we want to get it in but this massive overbet screams draw (imo). As long as we play our monsters the same way.

Not saying shove is wrong but against observant opp/reg this overbet will be a big tell.

Re: As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

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super standard shove. whats the question?

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I don't think its as simple as superstandardshove. Obv we want to get it in but this massive overbet screams draw (imo). As long as we play our monsters the same way.

Not saying shove is wrong but against observant opp/reg this overbet will be a big tell.

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So it's a tell. So what? You have A-high at the moment and are happy to get a fold, and you want to guarantee that you see 2 cards with solid equity against his range if he calls.

Re: As,Ks, flopped nut flush draw heads up OOP on baby flop
 

I knew re-raising was best since I didn't have a made hand yet and he did. I guess the question I should have asked was whether I should raise to perhaps $90 and let him make the decision to go all in, or should I go all in myself? Which is more profitable.

edit: guess I should have checked this out before I posted...pokerstove shows I have 62% equity over a pair of 9's (for example). Therefore if we have $200 effective stacks and we get it all in on the flop I would profit $48 in the long run.

Since the pot is $56 right now it is in my best interest to take it down on the flop...right? I guess rr aa is best.

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and you want to guarantee that you see 2 cards with solid equity against his range if he calls.

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yah, and shoving has at least a lil more FE. arrrrrrrin