nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

no accurate read on villain, only played ~20 hands, but he seems loose - limps into a lot of pots

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $69.25
MP: $55.40
Hero (CO): $45.40
BTN: $51.75
SB: $81.15
BB: $27.35

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BTN calls $2.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($8.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN folds, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($20.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, UTG calls $15

River: ($50.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero ?

should i VB here or just check it down and hope to see a weaker king? KQ/KT might call here, KJ has me buried, as does 66...

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

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no accurate read on villain

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We have a problem.

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

Hero checks behind. This is one of those scenarios where all hands that you beat fold, and all the ones that beat you will call/raise. If you've seen him call 3 streets of value bets with TP2K, then I'd consider it...but probably still check behind.

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

I probably check behind, but maybe I miss some value. Two streets of value out of TPTK is usually pretty standard.

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

i don't mind checking here at all

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

I think I am more likely to bet if the J doesn't the river, say a duce hits (even a diamond) i think a bet is ok if this guy is one of those limp call idiots. I think you sell K 10 soooooted a lot.

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

With less than 1/2 a pot sized bet on the river I'm shoving...what's wrong with me? If villain has a Jack so be it, but most Jacks don't make it this far, 66 is unlikely, a backdoor flush draw coming in is not enough to check, and I'd hate to see a hand that would've called a push.

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

This is a spot where I check and I always feel like I lose value for being a pussy. The fact of the matter is, players at these stakes will call 3 bets with top pair mid kicker alot of the time, but usually don't get that far with a jack or backdoor flush draw. You're good here the majority of the time, and you'll get called by a weaker king enough to make it profitable imo.

You and I both need to sack up and start value betting in these situations

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

Make em pay man. KJ and 66 raise you on the turn. It doesnt seem likely villian would check AJ or flush on riv. Make em pay...

Re: nl100 TPTK, value bet this river?
 

There is absolutely value in shoving here
For him to check again here with something that beats you is highly unlikely; definitely a good spot to make your first note on villain