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ivenhoe 11-14-2007 12:29 AM

PS 10R 45G What is your range to push here?
 
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1000/t2000
(Ante: t200)
8 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: t96910
UTG+1: t57504
MP1: t53271
MP2: t25157
CO: t34042
Button: t86589
Hero: t49874
BB: t50878


Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 raises to t8000, 2 folds, Hero raises all-in t49674, BB folds, MP2 calls all-in t16957.
Uncalled bets: t24717 returned to Hero.


Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t30557, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t53514)



Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t30557, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t53514)



River: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t30557, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t53514)



Results:
Final pot: t30557

PS 10R 45G (as I remember already ITM)
MP2 is a new player, only 3 hands at the table, and this is his first move. I had TT and pushed as you can see, think it was right decision.
But what is your range here to push?
What if you would have AQ, 88 or 99 here?
Also please take notice that we don`t have any FE.

yNnOs 11-14-2007 02:02 AM

Re: PS 10R 45G What is your range to push here?
 
With no read, I still think villains range for making it 4x bodes well for TT. Even without FE, shove. Range to push is probably 88+,AQs+,AKo. Against this range, villains opening range would have to be tighter than 99+,AKs,AKo, for it to be a negative equity shove. Something like 77+,AJs+,AJo+ seems more typical, and still may be too tight.

You need to win more than 45%, and against the more reasonable range you're 56%. Throw AQo in the pushing range and you're still 54%.

Seems worth noting that since you need > 45% equity for this to be good, even if you're pushing range is exactly the same as his opening range, its worth it. Clearly, his opening range (in all likelihood) is wider than your pushing range.


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