shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

not that passiv villain, it seems he picks his spots., have only tangled in one pot before and then he bet me off my top pair top kicker.
what is the best play in this spot generally?
And if we just call and hit on the river, does your average villain get in his last chips?


Hero (BTN): $98.90
SB: $231.78
BB: $102.62
UTG: $133.04
MP: $173.15
CO: $88

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($37) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $21</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.90 and is All-In</font>,

Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

i like it

maybe he bet so small to induce but then we still have 12 outs at least, we don't have a read to think he'd do such a thing so his small bet pbb indicates weakness =&gt; shove is fine

Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

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i like it

maybe he bet so small to induce but then we still have 12 outs at least, we don't have a read to think he'd do such a thing so his small bet pbb indicates weakness =&gt; shove is fine

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Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

I think 55, 77 is a non-negligible part of his range

Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

i really dont think hes folding all that often. when bad lags raise the flop and donk the turn that small theyr are usually looking for action. i think 68s, 55, 77, and 9T make up a big part of his range here

if he had ch/c flop and then donked the turn on the other hand, i would be much more likely to put him on a draw, mid pair + gutshot, etc that was looking for a cheap river and couldnt call a shove.

Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

I would just call turn. I don't think you have much fold equity here. Miniraise flop donk turn is usually a very strong line for fish

Re: shoving the draw vs a 32/29/2
 

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i like it

maybe he bet so small to induce but then we still have 12 outs at least, we don't have a read to think he'd do such a thing so his small bet pbb indicates weakness =&gt; shove is fine

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I'm couting 17 outs here. Str8 draw + FD. Assuming he doesn't have a set. If he does it's 15 outs.