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NYTyler 11-12-2007 10:41 PM

Good Bluff?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t28519)
Hero (t26958)
UTG (t48961)
UTG+1 (t8670)
MP1 (t20859)
MP2 (t13706)
MP3 (t18668)
CO (t45714)
Button (t57945)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t1000, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4500</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls t3500.

Flop: (t10300) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t7000</font>, Hero calls t7000.

Turn: (t24300) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t15358 (All-In)</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: t8942

Villain has been raising his SB constantly when nobody else plays and betting out first at a lot of hands when the pot is heads up or sometimes three-ways. He has done so and most of the time rarely had to show down his hand when he did this. Is this an ok bluff?

hamnegger 11-12-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
i hate the flop call. love the turn shove bc its your only shot and youve put a ton in already.

ivenhoe 11-12-2007 11:01 PM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
1) I wouldn`t raise this hand from BB (esp if limpers like limp-call)
2) What is the reason to call flop bet? And what if he bets turn again? So if I decided to bluff, I would shove this flop.

NYTyler 11-12-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
[ QUOTE ]
1) I wouldn`t raise this hand from BB (esp if limpers like limp-call)
2) What is the reason to call flop bet? And what if he bets turn again? So if I decided to bluff, I would shove this flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought that this was one of his bluffs and thought there was a chance to bluff him off on the turn. It is somewhat scarier to have someone call behind you then put out a bet afterwards (or a raise). Given my stack size though you have a very valid point.

jonnyd 11-13-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
imo you got the best turn to shove.
but are you shoving most/all turns?

edit:

but really, this post is a little too read-related to be discussion worthy.

you had a read and you went with it and you were right. good job sir.

JARID 11-13-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
NYTyler,

Check your BB pf. In theory your plan is sound, but implementing it costs you too many chips. Calling the flop bet is 1/4 of your stack.

Jarid

erc007 11-13-2007 02:37 AM

Re: Good Bluff?
 
Preflop and flop are a huge spew. I'd be surprised if the turn bet worked too, although it might against a SS donk that can't read hands at all. What 2 diamond hands could u have here? He's supposed to believe that you're just calling (not jamming) this flop with AKdd;AQdd;KQdd or AJo;KJo? This is a really tough sell and on the turn and u don't have enough chips left to make it a tough call IMO.


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