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yellowbluebus 11-12-2007 09:36 PM

QQ vs 80/15/3
 
Villain has been giving me a lot of trouble. He loves to bet and pretty much pots every street no matter if it's limped or raised pot. He doesn't fold to c-bets (30%) and likes to go to showdown. When do I make a stand?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $25.65
MP: $25
CO: $19.70
BTN: $25.55
SB: $24.85
BB: $49.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.10</font>, Hero ?

PokerSlut 11-12-2007 09:40 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
If he is as big a LAG as you say, you are a massive favorite over his range here. So, if it were me I'd shove on the turn. Unless you plan to fold to his bet on the turn. Because if you call, you may as well push in since that's what is going to happen on the river, when there might be another heart or another straight card that will make your heart jump into your throat.

Lego05 11-12-2007 09:48 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
Raise the flop.

Raise the turn.

You want to get all-in vs. this player.

MicroDonk666 11-12-2007 09:51 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
yeah definately raise flop and raise turn. U want to get in all in ASAP

Profish2285 11-12-2007 10:28 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
Fist pump first, then shove turn.

yellowbluebus 11-12-2007 10:46 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
I have a lot to learn about my opponents and I knew that I misplayed the hand on the turn:

Turn: ($6.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.10</font>, Hero calls $6.10

River: ($18.30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $18.30</font>, Hero folds

Results: $18.30 Pot ($0.90 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $17.40 (+$8.30 NET)

Then a couple of hands later this happens. My state of mind is increasingly tilting but I didn't want that to cloud my judgment. Is shoving the turn here vs same villain horrible? I am pretty sure I got the hands backwards.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $24.75
BB: $25
UTG: $16.20
MP: $25.55
CO: $25
BTN: $61.30

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.30</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.30

Flop: ($9.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($23.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.45 and is All-In???</font>

Profish2285 11-12-2007 10:54 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
You have A high here, this is a fold. Youre trying to bluff someone who doesnt fold.

Genesis 11-12-2007 11:30 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
If he doesn't fold then how do you suggest playing this flop? Do we think he'll fold this time?

Profish2285 11-12-2007 11:31 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
Against this guy with AK, I am going to just check and give up honestly. Why am I going to war with a maniac when I have ace high?

yellowbluebus 11-12-2007 11:37 PM

Re: QQ vs 80/15/3
 
c/f flop? BTW, the guy was 80/15/3 during my session but over 250 datamined hands he's 62/12/3 fwiw. I've looked at some of the hands and he plays really bad. Bluffs a lot and throws in 3-bets with J6s, QTo and alike.


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