preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

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Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $37
UTG: $36
Hero (MP): $210.20
CO: $116.30
BTN: $180
SB: $83.85

Pre-Flop: X X dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO calls $7, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $83.85 and is All-In</font>, BB folds

whats your shove range here?

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

Probably JJ+ and AK. I don't see 40bb buyin players shoving light like shortstackers do.

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

against an unknown i would call AK and TT+

this range will chang dramatically after a few hands obv.

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

so, this is 40bb, and CO has 55bb (but will likely fold).

I'd say AK, QQ+

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

well it should be a shove and not a call, right? CO is kinda on short side.

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so, this is 40bb, and CO has 55bb (but will likely fold).

I'd say AK, QQ+

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damn QQ+?

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

TT+ AK mostly shoves like this are weak PP or broadway cards imo

Re: preflop: dealing with a short shove
 

JJ+, AK against an unknown. (assuming CO folds everytime, we need about 42% equity against SB's shoving range btw.) TT is very close depending on what range you assume he is shoving with.

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so, this is 40bb, and CO has 55bb (but will likely fold).

I'd say AK, QQ+

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damn QQ+?

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I thought a bit about adding JJ, but I think JJ is maybe only slighly +ev, or close to 0ev.

Let's see a range and some pokerstove %. How about AQs+, 99+ for villain?

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so, this is 40bb, and CO has 55bb (but will likely fold).

I'd say AK, QQ+

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damn QQ+?

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I thought a bit about adding JJ, but I think JJ is maybe only slighly +ev, or close to 0ev.

Let's see a range and some pokerstove %. How about AQs+, 99+ for villain?

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yeah your prob right, just 'seems' so friggin tight.