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I have this guy at 17/15/8 after 222 hands now, but earlier when he pulled this I think PT had him logged as a weak-tight somehow instead of an ultra-aggressor. We had been both multi-tabling for about an hour when this hand happened, generally staying out of each other's ways. Maybe I should have just quit this table because I have this shark to my left. But I really have trouble with these spots.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $128.50
BB: $128.35
UTG: $99.95
MP: $106.50
Hero (CO): $206
BTN: $117

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($53.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($101.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $67 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $101.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN mucked and WON $98.50 (+$48.50 NET)

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i would c/r the flop, and if i didn't i would c/r AI on the turn

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Don't understand how c/r'ing in either spot works well against opponent's range. C/r'ing flop is probably best; when turn is a 10 I hate c/r'ing turn. This guy is 17/15 and he's pretty good I've been watching. He's getting away from most everything I beat, even on the flop.

Dunno if I'm setting myself up to get outplayed against a multi-tabler by playing weak-tight. He bets half-pot on flop and turn like he's value betting, then pounds river when apparent draws miss. For that reason I think river was a value bet too. Can you please explain c/r a little more here? This spot is weak in my game with CO raise vs. BTN rraise when I hold AK,QQ,JJ,TT.

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I think you could possibly reraise preflop here if you wanted to be a little more aggressive than how you played this hand. As is I think you made a wise fold. As you said there are a lot of hands in his range that could have you beat. As it was played, I think I would fold here on the end too.

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I'm not crazy about playing this so passively against a good TAG (I would pretty often against a LAG). Puts you in a real difficult spot. I would rather show some more aggro preflop or on the flop than take this passive line.

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This is a nasty spot
I actually hate all options pf, I am really not sure what is best.
As played I think I think crai on the turn, he might put you on a draw or pair such as 88-99 and fire a lot and jusging by his af he would fire a 2nd barrel and your hand is somewhat under-repped

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We need a plan preflop. I prefer the way you play it, but not by much. The other options look less friendly.
Id probably commit to my hand on the turn if nothing scary shows up there and just c/c and call a river bet because by then he has no option but to shove
Otherwise you have to fold turn which is just bad IMO

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i like raising the flop because people are felting this flop with worse, you can't be scared of AA or KK here, and you have to protect your hand against overcards or other draws he might have (AKcc).

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Wow, that fold is disgustingly bad. If you think you are that far behind his range, then fold preflop - folding pre is FINE and is the standard play OOP if the villain has a tight reraising range. If you're calling pre, then this board is a gift from heaven, and you should be ecstatic about seeing a showdown. His AF is 8, and thus bets from this guy do not narrow his range very much at all.

IMO a crai on the turn is the best option by far.

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IMO a crai on the turn is the best option by far.

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Agreed. I don't get the call turn/fold river line... If you put him that solidly on AA/KK, then fold the turn - you don't have odds to draw to your 2 outs in that case.