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Indomitus 11-12-2007 02:30 PM

100NL 6max making play
 
NL100 6-max

BB ($111.93)
Hero ($101)
MP3 ($107.15)
CO ($102.5)
Button ($98.5)
SB ($72.75)

SB: Post SB $0.50
BB: Post BB $1.00

Preflop:
Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero Raise $4
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>
Button Call $4
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>

Flop:($9.5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
Hero Bet $7
Button Call $7

Turn:($23.5) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(2 players)</font>
Hero Check
Button Bet $18
Hero Allin $90
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>

Summary in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">

Total pot $128.55 Rake $2.95
Hero: wins $128.55
</font>

Villain is 23/14 in about 200 hands.No big pots beetwen us i played about 15 hands before that hand.But i have a note on him
that he loves to call flop bets and bluffs if bettor shows
weakness.So there as i thought was the same spot-when i
checked to him-he bet almost instantly.But i wonder was c/r
all in here good?I also thought about calling but don't
sure about that,cause on the river it would be really
hard decision if he bets.what do u guys think?

LiveNow 11-12-2007 02:31 PM

Re: 100NL 6max making play
 
i hate it. Against a villain like this our hand is usually still good anyway. I c/c or b/f turn all day. Sure villain will fold a lot, but when he doesn't you lose a stack.

djj6835 11-12-2007 02:32 PM

Re: 100NL 6max making play
 
If he folded you had the best hand. He isn't folding kx spades here. I would just lead turn again most of the time. Charge draws and smaller pairs while balancing my range for when I double barrel scare cards.

TheJokerIsWild 11-12-2007 02:41 PM

Re: 100NL 6max making play
 
[ QUOTE ]
If he folded you had the best hand. He isn't folding kx spades here. I would just lead turn again most of the time. Charge draws and smaller pairs while balancing my range for when I double barrel scare cards.

[/ QUOTE ]


agree 10000000%

TJ Eckleburg12 11-12-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 100NL 6max making play
 
I didn't read the results before posting.

I think that check-calling the turn would be by far your worst option.

Leading again on the turn would probably be "standard," folding to a large raise, and it's what I'd do most of the time. If he doesn't have a king or a set, then yes, it's a good play and he'll probably fold. The problem is, if he hit a set on the flop, or if he hit floated overcards, he's probably calling. You might have enough fold equity to make BAD kings fold the turn, but you might not.

Here's what I don't like about it. For a 23/14 coldcalling a preflop raise, we have to consider that small pocket pairs are a large part of his range. For the turn check-push, if we're right and he doesn't have a pair or better, then we're risking $90 to win $41.50 and we take it down. If we're WRONG, then we're on a 2 outer with one card to come.

When moving in on a play, I'd much rather have hands that have more outs.

Given your read, I guess it's fine, but I think you might be out-thinking yourself and you're probably better off just leading the turn.


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