Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

Villain is a pretty big fish. Very passive, predictable and runs at around 40% VPIP. Probably not folding any ace. Definitely checkraises the flush/boat, possibly a weaker ace as well. I really have no idea.

Checking here is terrible and I'm a weak tight fish for even thinking about it, correct? So how much, and what if he checkraises?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($203.20)
SB ($201)
BB ($318.40)
UTG ($323.25)
MP ($237.20)
CO ($198.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13.

Turn: ($43) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, BB calls $32.

River: ($107) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero</font> [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

$66

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

just bet/fold. if he was gonna give you more action with a weaker ace it would have been on the flop/turn. if you get c/rd here its by a flush/full house.

dont be surprised if he just c/c's with a flush either. I'd probably bet like 71

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

Yes, you have to VB, and it's a fold when he c/r's. I don't think he's going to finally decide to c/r A8 or something on the river, given how he played flop and turn.

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

No you don't.

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

i like bet/fold here. i think most times he has a weaker ace or a queen and I really doubt he's going to check-raise it now.

I also think most players like this lead if they've made a flush unless you have a read that makes you think otherwise.

I think there are plenty of hands that are going to pay us off and I just can't see him CR with AT or worse. I'd bet about 55 or 60.

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

if you think he is gonna c/r you then you can check behind.

if you think he will c/r you with a hand you beat, then just bet/call.

i'd just bet this normally

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

Easy b/f

Re: Oh god, do I really have to valuebet this?
 

Bet 70