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ckj 11-12-2007 04:37 AM

AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
Villain is 28/15/1 over 57 hands.
River might have been a raise/fold, but I'm not very good at that with two pair.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, MP calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

knockonwood 11-12-2007 04:48 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
Just call down after the turn 3bet. I don't mind the river raise as he's probably guessing you were raising lite PF. Obviously, its not too cool when he three bets you, but i think not raising the river here would have been results orientated. I would have put him on A9 or Q9 before you were 3 bet on the river. You obviously see this more than a set.

Bulletproof Monk 11-12-2007 04:50 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
man wtf is he repping? exactly A9?

i play this the same. i think capping the river would be spew

kow i think you have missed the nut flush draw we have

neurotiq 11-12-2007 05:05 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
I'd play it the same. Nice hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

JJack 11-12-2007 06:22 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
I play the same.
I like river raise/call - dont see cards that you beat so often rather he overplays weaker 2 pair

maverickai 11-12-2007 06:58 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
grunching...


[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 28/15/1 over 57 hands.
River might have been a raise/fold, but I'm not very good at that with two pair.

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The pot is so big, you have top 2 pair, never fold! He might getting too excited with his 2 pair such as A9, A2. His VP$IP stat is 28 preflop, calling with wide range of hands.

Rather I would prefer to call on the river than raise him.

Fadook 11-12-2007 08:46 AM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
:grunch:
In the absence of something more than a stats read, this looks ok. A read on his postflop play would help.

Mitke 11-12-2007 12:03 PM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
* grunch *

How strong a hand does the Villain need to 3-bet the turn vs pfr? We just rivered past twopairs like AQ/A9/Q9 and are still behind sets 99/22. I don't think this is a bluff donk/3-bet often (e.g. w/JT hearts). Hero's line is too strong.

BDFD does complete on the river so that's a possibility we cannot overrule although I don't think it is very likely.

From Villain's point of view our play on the flop and turn often looks like c-bet + hitting an ace and then slowing down in fear of twopair or something.

Therefore I think this is a worse two pair leading the river for value often enough for us to raise/call river.

EDIT: and I don't fold top two HU in 6-handed unless the board is much more scary.

bozlax 11-12-2007 12:25 PM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
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Just call down after the turn 3bet. ...i think not raising the river here would have been results orientated.

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On the river, raise-fold is not something you really want to think about doing HU at .50/1. I think you played the hand fine.

fwiw, Villan had JhTh, ldo.

ckj 11-12-2007 01:39 PM

Re: AcKc .5/1 facing turn donk
 
My only postflop playing note on this player was because of this hand.

"slow plays flop and c/r turn /w sets"
Villain had 99, and his bet, 3-bet line was quite tricky.


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