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kimos123 11-11-2007 08:09 AM

JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
Villian is 22/5/2 over 20 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t895)
UTG (t1935)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1735)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t1295)</font>
MP2 (t2190)
CO (t960)
Button (t3050)
SB (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1295</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ?

Lion King 11-11-2007 08:21 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.

May I ask why you raised to 4xbb in the first place?

lucid75 11-11-2007 08:23 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
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May I ask why you raised to 4xbb in the first place?

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Yeah. 2.5x it. And beat him in the pot.

ger664 11-11-2007 09:15 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
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People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.


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So what stupid hands do u think villian is shoving over a 4xBB Pre Flop raise when he has PFR of 5% ??

kimos123 11-11-2007 09:19 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
4x BB bc i am in EP and i want to define my hand?
2.5x is too low, people will call you if they have any 2 picture cards on that level.

sence25 11-11-2007 09:24 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
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4x BB bc i am in EP and i want to define my hand?
2.5x is too low, people will call you if they have any 2 picture cards on that level.

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Why do you mind that?

kimos123 11-11-2007 09:29 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
sure i mind it, JJ is weak..
what do you suggest? i dont know why you people want 2.5x BB raise with JJ someone explain?

sixfour 11-11-2007 10:47 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
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sure i mind it, JJ is weak..
what do you suggest? i dont know why you people want 2.5x BB raise with JJ someone explain?

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Lucid raises 2.5BB's with anything that he's not shoving.

But yeah, 4BB's is too much, as played this is a snap call, BBV is that way

willperkins 11-11-2007 11:00 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
You are getting 2 to 1 to call and you are only a dog to 3 hands. Call.

Lion King 11-11-2007 11:57 AM

Re: JJ facing ALL IN $6.5 turbo
 
[ QUOTE ]
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People at $6.5's reraise allin with stupid hands. Unless this is one of the few who knows what he or she is doing it's an easy call. Even a good player isn't shoving tight enough to fold here.


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So what stupid hands do u think villian is shoving over a 4xBB Pre Flop raise when he has PFR of 5% ??

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I think 22/5 is about the avg 6,5 player. The 5 is more from late levels, early levels they prefer the limp-call.
Most of them are not familiar with odds, neither with fold equity.

That having said I believe his range is about 66+,AT+,KQ and maybe even KJs or some other A-rags.

To prove it I have a hand I played last set (which just finished).

Since I still didn't manage to get pt working on star-sng's I don't have stats but he had done nothing special so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1845)</font>
MP (t1478)
CO (t2875)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t1015)</font>
SB (t3782)
BB (t2505)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1015</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t740.

Flop: (t2180) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2180) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2180) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2180

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Kd (high card, ace).
Button has 7h 7s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins t2180.


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