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moldman 11-09-2007 05:22 PM

NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
The villain here I don't have many hands on, but have him at 44/7/0.6 in the 64 hands we've played. This is the first limp/raise he's pulled. That being said....

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $206
SB: $101.35
Hero (BB): $245.15
UTG: $252.15
UTG+1: $201
UTG+2: $198
MP1: $287.60
MP2: $84.20
CO: $88.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $104</font>, BTN folds, Hero ??

I can almost imagine doing any of the 3 options. If I call, there's about a PSB left on the flop.

Renton 11-09-2007 06:15 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
flod

AllTheCheese 11-09-2007 08:58 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
Shove.

SABR42 11-09-2007 09:18 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
Eh, I shove.

moldman 11-09-2007 09:33 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
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Eh, I shove.

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Does the "Eh" mean you're not too excited about it? Is this a situation where we only get called by AA/KK but can maybe get value from other hands by just calling (even though OOP)?

SABR42 11-09-2007 09:44 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
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Does the "Eh" mean you're not too excited about it?

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I think it's +EV or else I wouldn't say shove. I expect to see AA sometimes, but I've seen guys with stats like randomly go crazy with like 88 or ATo.

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Is this a situation where we only get called by AA/KK but can maybe get value from other hands by just calling (even though OOP)?

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Calling is so pointless. Guy's already put in over $100 pre-flop, he won't fold anything because of the pot odds.

GrandMelon 11-09-2007 09:59 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
arr in

The Eureka Kid 11-10-2007 04:34 AM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
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The villain here I don't have many hands on, but have him at 44/7/0.6 in the 64 hands we've played.

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It is a shove to me, maybe to a 10/4 I fold.

iponnet 11-10-2007 09:29 AM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6...tsatraprd1.jpg

moldman 11-10-2007 02:50 PM

Re: NL200 - KK in the BB gets limped/raised
 
Well, seems like most people would have shoved pre, but alas... I smooth called figuring I was going down to AA regardless and might get further action from a lower PP or a goofy bluff. Given my line preflop, what do you think of postflop?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $206
SB: $101.35
Hero (BB): $245.15
UTG: $252.15
UTG+1: $201
UTG+2: $198
MP1: $287.60
MP2: $84.20
CO: $88.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $104</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $73

Flop: ($219) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $183.60 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $141.15 and is All-In

Turn: ($501.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($501.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)


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