200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

Villian is good bet very aggresive, 30/25/5 ,
he "never" slowplays big pairs preflop

I am very aggresive 28/24/4

5-max table.
stacks: 2k


I raise $40 OTB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], bb calls

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I bet $75, he raises to $220, call

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
He bets $450, I call

river: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
He shoves, hero?

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

nasty, I'd fold the river, and if he doesn't have a history of slowing down after that turn bet I'd try to fold there too.

wtf is ur avatar lol

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

I can garantuee he doesn't slow down with a flushdraw on the turn.

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

Call the river. He essentially needs 8s full here.

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

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Call the river. He essentially needs 8s full here.

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I think he'd 3ball 88 preflop way more than he would 45, 43, A4ss, etc...

I think it's really close, but i'd prolly fold

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

why call turn if you are going to fold this river? you expect him to give up on the river because you think he thinks you will call river if you call turn??

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

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you expect him to give up on the river because you think he thinks you will call river if you call turn??

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yes and no

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

I can't put him on a hand other than missed flush draw, I'm gonna go with the dan negreanu logic and call this IMO.

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

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I can't put him on a hand other than missed flush draw, I'm gonna go with the dan negreanu logic and call this IMO.

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This is seriously the extent of your hand reading?

"There's a flush draw, he has a flush draw".

Re: 200xBB - JJ vs very strong play
 

So what do you put him on that beats you? 8s full? He *doesn't* ever have have QQ+ given preflop, he shouldn't be defending his blinds with any hand with a 4 in it without 3betting, so that leaves medium pocket pairs and semibluffs.