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bozzer 11-09-2007 10:48 AM

$50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
CO 38/6/1.7 50 hands
BTN 33/2/1.7 50 hands

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$13.80</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$69.83</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$19.95</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$16.70</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$71.00</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$61.03</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1, 6 players) Hero is UTG 1 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.5, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls $2.5 ($17.45), BTN calls $2.5 ($14.20), <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, BTN calls $6 ($8.20)

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21.5, 2 players)
<font color="#0000cc"> Hero?</font>

do you cbet this into two shorties?

do you shove, c/f or c/c turn?

EMc 11-09-2007 10:50 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
I just put him AI. He will fold a T occusionally IMO and you are getting value against pairs like 66 he is calling with or FDs

Ender Wiggin 11-09-2007 10:51 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
thin value shove on the turn imo... we could c/c to induce I guess.. c/f is not a possibility given:

stack size of villain
pot size
type of player that villain is

Ender Wiggin 11-09-2007 10:52 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
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He will fold a T occusionally

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I lold

EMc 11-09-2007 10:55 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
[ QUOTE ]
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He will fold a T occusionally

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I lold

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You will be surprized how weaktight people are, esp shorties facing an AI. I didnt say he would always, maybe one of out six times

willyc 11-09-2007 11:04 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
I like c/c here. I think it's worth giving him a free card if he checks behind on a flush draw. And if the river blanks I might even check again.

I've tried lots of lines against the shorties and letting them bluff seems to work really well when I have a somewhat marginal hand. If I always bet the turn here they usually only come along with a hand that beats me, but if I check/call I think they bluff more than enough to make up for the times that I am beat.

ama0330 11-09-2007 11:18 AM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
Either put the rest in here or dont bet the flop. The turn doesnt change anything so if you thought you were ahead on the flop you are still ahead now. If you didnt think you were ahead on the flop you shouldnt have bet.

Phytopath 11-09-2007 12:01 PM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
I would actually just overbet the flop AI most of the time here if heads up, playing 3-way you need to do what you did. Easy turn shove he has what 1/3rd of the pot left? I disagree that he would ever fold a T.

kolotoure 11-09-2007 12:06 PM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
Ed - your image must be a lot better then mine because nobody ever folds any pair against me on this turn

bravos1 11-09-2007 01:30 PM

Re: $50 99 battles the short stacks II
 
Just jam the turn. You're not folding here after putting in 1/2 the effective stack. He could have overs, or who knows what else. If he has any clue, he would of jammed the flop w/ a Ten or even hearts... but who knows.. He could easily also have 44-77, but If I was you, he'd have 88 here [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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