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Mhaz 11-08-2007 05:35 AM

[50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
Villain is 23/18/8.3 over 133 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $92.35
BTN: $27.20
SB: $50
BB: $126.55
UTG: $76.70
Hero (MP): $58.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, CO calls $5, BB folds

Turn: ($16.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls $12

River: ($40.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $19</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $73.35 and is All-In</font>

It's about $21 more to call on the river. I think I'm beat a lot of the time here, but I am getting too good odds?

traz 11-08-2007 11:17 AM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
I fold pretty easily, even getting like 4:1

daboytim 11-08-2007 11:36 AM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
As played, i would definitly call the river, seeing villains AF is 8, I guess his river AF is off the scale and he just loves to shove those scarecards. As you are getting 4:1, and you only need to be good one out of 4 times, i'm calling here. He's definitly bluffing here more then 25% of the time.

subs 11-08-2007 11:37 AM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
his AF is reeeeeeeeally high... i think i call against him but fold against more passive opponents

Mhaz 11-08-2007 08:03 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
I'd appreciate some more opinions on this hand, thanks.

Hail Eris 11-08-2007 08:18 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
This is a fold. What do you think he's bluffing with?

Profish2285 11-08-2007 08:21 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
Even if he is very aggro, I cant think of anything he is doing this with that we beat other than complete air. Im not sure if he would turn a made hand into a bluff, it looks like he was drawing and hit. Just give him credit.

Speedlimits 11-08-2007 08:43 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
fold this btch.


his range so weighted towards a flush it's a pretty easy fold.

Phytopath 11-08-2007 11:13 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
wow this spot sucks, you've put in over 2/3rds of your stack already here. But this still really feels like a fold.

This reminds me of the whole section in PNL dealing with how bad Big one pair hands play with stack/pot ratios 10+.

spacetime 11-08-2007 11:22 PM

Re: [50NL] AKs, river decision with TPTK against TAG
 
Fold river given line.

He is very aggressive which is why his line sucks so bad for us. He slips into calling mode when I would expect him to raise either the flop or the turn with a FD, leaning to a flop raise.

I am wondering what else could have been done in this hand.

a) CRAI turn
b) c/r flop
c) c/f river

I think there is a case to c/r the flop, villain is betting here a very high % of the time I think. This hand sucks and I can't really think of a good line.


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