3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (MP1): $664
MP2: $621
CO: $486
BTN: $501.25
SB: $384.65
BB: $300
UTG: $600
UTG+1: $431.85

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $24, MP2 folds, CO calls $24, 3 folds

Flop: ($81) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $54</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $160</font>, CO folds, UTG+1 calls $106

Turn: ($401) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $247.85 and is All-In</font>

UTG+1 was mostly unknown and CO is a tight-passive reg who is probably capable of making moves, but who knows for sure cuz he doesn't do stuff often enough for anyone to bother looking him up

flop raise isn't too standard but I need to sometimes raise these flops without a big hand, and I picked this time to do it, was gonna give up for sure once he called, but his turn shove confused me because it makes no sense at all for a strong hand

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

"was gonna give up for sure once he called"

he's got 99 and thinks you're about to pay off with a j?
he's got an overpair and is spewtarded?
he's got some combo draw and thinks there's fold equity? any hand with overs and clubs, any oesd, so many river cards ruin you...
wait, i've got it.. he's got absolutely nothing, you should look him up.
this is a nasty spot to get yourself into [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

edit: i may be bad at poker, but i don't like this call, or the play in general

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

From an unknown I wouldn't be surprised by TT+ protecting against your possible FD and/or overs. Pretty sure I lay this down, if he's semibluffing he should expect to have more FE just by pushing over your raise on the flop, right (unless he puts you on a draw and is only bluffing safe turn cards, but that plan seems better suited to some overpair than to air)?

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

This is one of those times where his line doesn't make sense, so we want to call.

buuuuuuuuuuuut we still shouldn't

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

I don't like the flop call either plus I don't think his turn bet is so weird here: he is pretty short so his shove is only about half the pot. Of course you'd normally expect him to check here, but if he does not put you on a J he might push here with every overpair and TT stuff because he might feel he's already commited and might at least gain some FE against you...

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

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This is one of those times where his line doesn't make sense, so we want to call.

buuuuuuuuuuuut we still shouldn't

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i'm lost. how does his line not make sense? As holdem mentioned, possibly he could be looking at 88+ and not looking for any more overs to fall on the river. Plus, his turn bet isn't even big, it's a 2/3 pot sized bet, what else amount would he bet on the turn?

Finally, even if he had AA here, with the pot so big, is it that bad shoving here instead of going for the c/r or c/c?

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

I think you're ahead here very rarely

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

I like the flop play, but you gotta fold the turn IMO.

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

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I think you're ahead here very rarely

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what does he have

Re: 3/6 was done bluffing but oh wait now I want to call
 

22-55 and AK/mabey AQ is alot smaller than Jx 77+ 9x....