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fish leader 11-07-2007 03:05 PM

Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
This hand was from a few months ago at Foxwoods. I misplayed this hand horribly, and just want to know what the best line is.

Villain in hand has been playing a lot of hands, basically luckboxing his stack up to <font color="green">$1400</font> and getting hit in the face with the deck.

I have <font color="green">$400</font> in front of me.

<font color="blue"> PF:</font> Its a 6 way straddled pot. I am in SB w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I raise to $35. Probably should have made it $40-45... anyways maniac calls, everyone else folds.

<font color="red">Pot:$86 </font>
<font color="blue"> Flop </font> K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I lead out for $50. He flat calls.

<font color="red">Pot:$186 </font>
<font color="blue">Turn</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I lead for 100. I know, my bet sizing sucks. Is it better to check or bet this turn? Villain calls obviously.

<font color="red">Pot:$386</font>
<font color="blue">River</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I pretty much only beat a bluff it feels like. I have $215 left here. I check the river, and he bets out $150 very quick. Better to check/evaluate based on his river bet, or to just shove here?

jk3a 11-07-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
I pot that flop. Bigger on turn and river doesn't matter. As played, c/f the river is fine. He'll have a jack or two pair a ton.

fish leader 11-07-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
Seems like that is pretty good to me, thanks

Anyone not bet the turn?

EgoSlasher 11-07-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
Turn bet looks like suicide to me.

OneTimeAce 11-07-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
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Turn bet looks like suicide to me.

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Yeah I dont think tht will accomplish anything.
I just give up their.

fish leader 11-07-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Live 1/2 FW AA vs a maniac
 
LOL. really give up on a 2 flush board with straight draws, where maniac villain flat calls on 2 streets?

IMO I see him as drawing here, and if you seriously consider giving up on the turn without a good reason for this justification its -EV in the long run I think

NOT saying that betting the turn is better than checking, but I dont think we just check fold the turn here... doesnt seem right

Anyways, I was wondering if more people think its better to check the turn or bet. It feels like checking the turn, but do I want to let him hit free draws on the river?


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