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gir 11-07-2007 12:30 AM

2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
Button: 31/22/3.8 Really aggro...with a hand.
BB: 28/12/2.1 Haven't tangled with him all that much...but the sample is over 300 hands. I don't have any real notes on him (so he's most likely been in line).

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $404
SB: $223.50
BB: $412.40
UTG: $404
MP: $1,929.25
Hero (CO): $577.90

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN calls $16, SB folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30, BB calls $30

Turn: ($140) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $160</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $366.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $460 Pot
BB mucked and WON $662.90 (+$456.90 NET)

cbboy 11-07-2007 12:41 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
Why didn't you bet the turn?

ata 11-07-2007 01:18 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
Bet turn... as played call the river, I doubt even KQ calls that min raise.

And don't post results!

gir 11-07-2007 01:27 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
Well, the question is about whether the fold is correct.
And you think KQs shoves there giving me justification to call?

wrkingtobegreat 11-07-2007 01:48 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
*Grunch* This f-ing sucks...we're getting 2.8-1 on a call and we showed weakness on the turn, but I just cant put villain on anything but Kx or AA that we actually beat here...i guess its gotta be a fold.

wrkingtobegreat 11-07-2007 01:53 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
On thinking this over, if villain played this straight up his only reasonable range that beats us is 55 and AQ (doubt he would call flop bet with 33, would have raised with 10s JJs or KKs pre probably, and q9 seems like an unlikely call in the big blind. I think its a call because of Kx pushing in response to your turn check and innocuous river gir...

wrkingtobegreat 11-07-2007 01:54 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
But yeah do you see how betting the turn might have made this easier to play gir?

gir 11-07-2007 02:03 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
So...If I bet turn and he raises me, what do I do then? And it would make it an easier call perhaps because I could put him on a heart draw. In this instance, I rule that one out.

blankoblanco 11-07-2007 02:18 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
So...If I bet turn and he raises me, what do I do then?

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fold and feel really good about it? seems like an easy bet for value and because you really rarely get raised by anything you beat

Mr. Wishbone 11-07-2007 03:47 AM

Re: 2/4 I\'m minraise/folding two pair on the river
 
I think fold is good as played.


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