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sMethod 11-06-2007 08:48 PM

KK Stacking off.
 
Villan is a good reg we don't have that much history of tangling and its still early in the session. This seems like one of those hands you just have to stack off with. I though that I might consider folding vs my more nitty opponents is this never an option?


Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $234.10
SB: $198
BB: $246.10
UTG: $61.20
MP: $205.95
Hero (CO): $191.25

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $50</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

Dialect 11-06-2007 08:59 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
He would probably raise TT-AA preflop, so with that out of his range I think a push is good.

orange 11-06-2007 09:01 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
eh, probably stack off. we have generally decent equity.

Paul McSwizzle 11-06-2007 09:01 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
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He would probably raise TT-AA preflop, so with that out of his range I think a push is good.

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I don't think you are worried about TT-AA so much as you are worried about the two pair hands.

sMethod 11-06-2007 09:22 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
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eh, probably stack off. we have generally decent equity.

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The number of hands in his range we beat is narrow at best.
Yes we have decent equity I know that makes this hand hard to lay down but If I'm up against an opponent who seems to be waiting for a good spot to get it in post flop might we consider folding this?

icantfeelit 11-06-2007 09:32 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
You gotta stack off there

TheChad 11-06-2007 09:49 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
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You gotta stack off there

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no, you do NOT have to. it's more meh to a fold. he could easily have 2p or some weird straight. He called your raise OOP, so we have to give him credit for some sort of a hand. Flip a coin? If it's real early in the session, I like going through one of these now vs when we are all deeper. That way we can get better reads for later when it means more. I prob call even though I'm prob behind, more for metagame. Feels like we just turned our hand into a bluffish hand.

Melchiades 11-06-2007 09:59 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
Yeah. Stack off. He has straight two pairs or a pair+openender or some pair+flush draw. We have good equity vs this.



Board: Qd Jd Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.054% 49.33% 02.73% 14650 810.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 47.946% 45.22% 02.73% 13430 810.00 { AdTd, KJs+, KdTd, QTs+, JTs, Td9d, 98s, QJo, JTo }


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TheChad 11-06-2007 10:30 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
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Yeah. Stack off. He has straight two pairs or a pair+openender or some pair+flush draw. We have good equity vs this.



Board: Qd Jd Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.054% 49.33% 02.73% 14650 810.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 47.946% 45.22% 02.73% 13430 810.00 { AdTd, KJs+, KdTd, QTs+, JTs, Td9d, 98s, QJo, JTo }


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we have the Kd. maybe pull that from his range.

Melchiades 11-06-2007 10:36 PM

Re: KK Stacking off.
 
My mistake. Thats one hand combo though. Won't change the numbers that much I would think.


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