bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

villain is 16/14/2.5 over 70 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($161.97)
CO ($262.31)
Button ($137.72)
SB ($89)
BB ($138.73)
UTG ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($13.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, CO folds, Button calls $9.

Turn: ($31.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, Button calls $22.

River: ($75.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

I think a bluff overshove here is pretty gross, ~40$ dollar bet achieves the same.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

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i think he has a K the majority of the time no?

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

check and hope he misses clubs, QT. ship

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I think a bluff overshove here is pretty gross, ~40$ dollar bet achieves the same.

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i think he has a K the majority of the time no?

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Yes, or QT, if he calls turn with a K he calls river.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

btw, Id rather shove the river if we hit then just valuebetting. Villain is either really strong or really weak.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

why is he either really strong or really weak? i would expect him to raise flop or turn on a board like this w/ a monster..

Yes I agree that he calls a 3/4 bet with a K but tags usually know that an overbet means a strong hand which is why I think I can get him off it on the river.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

If you hit on the river hes either calling or folding, doesnt matter how much you bet. (his range contains draws hes folding and strong hands he called turn with are calling river)

I dont think villain ever folds a made hand on the river if he called the turn.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

"I dont think villain ever folds a made hand on the river if he called the turn."

well this I don't agree with.. Seriously that would be a huge leak to have and I really don't expect a a TAG to be that bad. If he's even half way decent I think he folds KQ to a shove. He might show up with AK sometimes which would suck since I expect him to call with that.

Re: bluff overshove this river? 100NL
 

Why would a TAG call the turn with KQ and fold to a blank river?