FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

Am I 3Betting all in here? I had been at the table for less than two orbits and had only folded one hand after I coldcalled a UTG raise and then folded to BTN push. With 20 BBs am I supposed to fold this. If I take down this pot, I increase my chips from 75K to 100K.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 2,000/4,000 Blinds, 500 Ante, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: 153,250
BTN: 119,800
SB: 140,504
Hero (BB): 78,082
UTG: 26,016
UTG+1: 36,100
MP1: 161,887
MP2: 99,589

Pre-Flop: (10,000) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
5 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to 14,000</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero????

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

I'm shoving.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

I don't hate shoving, just keep in mind that your hand does very poorly against his likely calling range. If you would fold 98s here then you need to fold ATo.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

With only two orbits of information I am leaning toward folding this. I know it's a button raise but I wouldn't want to shove into a uber nit and be out of the tourney.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

a shove is very profitable given how often he folds and sometimes calls with a lesser hand (people call with like A6 and KQ and stuff, may fold like 55 or something). i think you're giving way too much credit to a button raise if you are folding this.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

Shoving should be +EV whatever his calling range, assuming he has some sort've standard button open raising range. I'm not sure AT does so badly against his range, I think you do get looked up by some worse aces, KQ, etc. I do also shove here with 98s though, it's a very good resteal opportunity.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

i think calling can be ok here. we can bet flop as bluff...c-rai flop as a bluff..c-rai for value or bet for value based on texture. shoving is fine. folding is weak imo. i would rarely if ever fold here.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

You should be going all in here 100% of the time.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

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i think calling can be ok here. we can bet flop as bluff...c-rai flop as a bluff..c-rai for value or bet for value based on texture. shoving is fine. folding is weak imo. i would rarely if ever fold here.

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I really disagree. I think calling is very bad. Hero has 19 BB's vs a button raise with a very strong hand considering expected ranges.

If you call there is going to be a number of flops where doing something like check/shoving is a spew (if you're doing it 100% of the time.) Plus there's not a single flop i would lead.

Re: FTP Doublestack 30 Left AT in BB
 

You don't want to call preflop here because you have a stack where if you push you have FE. I don't think this hand is a stop n' go candidate. Not to mention that with FE + a calling range that may include 99/88, you are doing just fine.

Barry