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sfetaz 11-05-2007 10:26 AM

Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?
 
I recently decided to be serious with limit online poker. Deposited $600 into full tilt to play 1/2 limit, started posting on 2+2, reading more books and getting myself serious into limit. I track my stats and others, I am tight aggressive and find my stats mostly where they should be. Yet somehow most of my sessions are losing sessions. It's very frustrating and I don't know where to look to find holes in my game. Nearly everything I read in poker tracker looks correct to me. It even rates me as tight aggressive. I know stats alone don't dictate a good player but I feel like I do things correctly more often than not. It's not simply bad beats that I am losing money on. How does someone figure out what they are doing wrong or if it actually is variance?

carol-ann 11-05-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
it is hard to win at minbet as you cannot put opponents for decision for all their chips

switch to unlimited holdthems and crush the opposition!

Ajahn 11-05-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
As long as PT rates you as TAG, everything should be fine.

dlorc 11-05-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
How many hands? you could easily have played 10k hands of good poker and be down $$$.

sfetaz 11-05-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?
 
More than 5000, less than 6000. Ok lets assume its variance. When do you start to see a profit? I am down almost $175. That's a little ground to make up. Am I all of a sudden going to have seemingly magical sessions where everything goes my way and profit goes up and up, back to back? I don't understand how if you lose so much, variance or not, you can all of a sudden be winning over and over without a serious run of cards. At these levels people play generally play well so how can those magic sessions just start appearing all of a sudden?

Abramovic 11-05-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
Try 1.4 million hands

Tree Surgeon 11-05-2007 11:10 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
No. No, no, no, no, no. Well, yes.

wazz 11-05-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
Win more than you lose. There are some incredibly deep concepts buried within that central poker concept, if you think about it hard enough. Yeah.

Mrage 11-05-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
The trick is to recognize when you hit that eventual rush of cards, and move up to higher stakes to play your rush. Everything in-between is just waiting.

thrasher789 11-05-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 
1/2 limit, especially shorthanded, is the sickest game I play as far as variance and horrific constant river beats, sometimes you'll feel like your in a never ending downswing becuase your opponents hit magic cards on the river over and over again but just keep at it, 175 isn't a bad loss at all and can easily be made up.


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