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icheckcallu 11-05-2007 03:48 AM

QQ 3bet pf.
 
flop gets check raise a bove min.. against one of the tag 3 bettor on the table.... 20/16/2

MP: $25.93
CO: $33.82
Hero (BTN): $38.66
SB: $32.25
BB: $30.91
UTG: $41.17

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.85</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.85

Flop: ($8.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $10.75</font>, Hero calls $6.75

Turn: ($29.55) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($29.55) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero ??????????????????????????????

whyzze 11-05-2007 03:50 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
please bet more on the flop. I think your weak bet induced a bluff. make it 6ish.

bet river. Theres no way he has a better hand. not sure how much you have left behind...but a shove is probably ok.

Hail Eris 11-05-2007 03:52 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
Yeah I shove here.

icheckcallu 11-05-2007 03:52 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
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Yeah I shove here.

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yea but do u think a tag calls here with jj and below???

bknollenberg 11-05-2007 04:11 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
this is a really confusing hand. why is there so much checking? ducy he thinks you're weak when you bet 4 on the flop and raises your weakness (weakly, i might add). and then you give up?

icheckcallu 11-05-2007 04:16 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
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this is a really confusing hand. why is there so much checking? ducy he thinks you're weak when you bet 4 on the flop and raises your weakness (weakly, i might add). and then you give up?

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yea but only hands that will call me is AA... JJ below might retardedly call me but I dont see any value in betting here.

obloni 11-05-2007 04:19 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
Villain probably has a pp, 99+; and was reraising you on the flop hoping you would fold AK, without getting him too pot commited should u rai.

As played a shove would gain nothing, I think the flop raise and turn check clearly meant that he was not willing to play for stacks OOP in a WA/WB situation.

I think I would bet 15-20 to get a bit of value out of 99-JJ.

bknollenberg 11-05-2007 05:10 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
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Villain probably has a pp, 99+; and was reraising you on the flop hoping you would fold AK, without getting him too pot commited should u rai.

As played a shove would gain nothing, I think the flop raise and turn check clearly meant that he was not willing to play for stacks OOP in a WA/WB situation.

I think I would bet 15-20 to get a bit of value out of 99-JJ.

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that's too nitty, an inordinate amount of players at this level will snap call with any overpair, so shove flop.

whyzze 11-05-2007 05:30 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
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I think I would bet 15-20 to get a bit of value out of 99-JJ.

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if hes calling 20 hes calling a shove

IAGTTAYM 11-05-2007 06:48 AM

Re: QQ 3bet pf.
 
Bet more on the flop. When he makes it $10.75 I'm probably shoving a pretty big part of my 3-betting range.
As played, probably check behind on the river, unless you have a laggy/tricky image, then shove.


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