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yegon 11-05-2007 03:00 AM

NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
Villain is 28/21/2.2 - I don't see a reason not to stack off here as the board is very drawy. Is that OK?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $71.99
MP: $50.50
CO: $53.59
BTN: $128.73
SB: $152.41
BB: $8.66

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $150.41 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $58.99 and is All-In

Phildo 11-05-2007 03:21 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
Call. You're gonna see draws a lot more than sets I think.

DaycareInferno 11-05-2007 03:25 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
i usually just call the donk bet and decide on the turn. once you raise, you should call. expect to get shoved on a really high percentage of the time when you raise a donker on a board like that.

bknollenberg 11-05-2007 03:46 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
eh, i say call too. i can see a wide range of hands doing that. you're probably up against something as weak as AQ, or something like KQcc, QJcc and such. but i don't think this is a set that often.

bknollenberg 11-05-2007 03:47 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
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eh, i say call too. i can see a wide range of hands doing that. you're probably up against something as weak as AQ, or something like KQcc, QJcc and such. but i don't think this is a set that often.

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oh wait, party poker.

snap call 100% of the time.

yegon 11-06-2007 03:06 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
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eh, i say call too. i can see a wide range of hands doing that. you're probably up against something as weak as AQ, or something like KQcc, QJcc and such. but i don't think this is a set that often.

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well almost there [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] it was the powerfull Ac5c

flush got there on the river unfortunately but I was happy with the call

Joymachine21 11-06-2007 03:09 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
To me the way he played that to fast for a set. Looks like he had a draw and didnt want to play it to tricky

matrix 11-06-2007 10:09 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
Villain plays this flop goot.

b/3bets all-in with a naked fd, has plenty outs against your range (maybe as many as 12)

Good advertising as well as he can play sets exactly the same and get well paid.

Yes you gotta call here, sometimes he has you crushed with a set sometimes but less often you have his KK smashed, and a player this aggressive is dsemi-bluffing with fd's and OESD's a bunch of times as well.

nh.

I think calling the donk bet blows - we are obv going to get allin if raised with a hand this strong - flat calling the flop donk sets us up for all kinds of trouble later in the hand (particularly if a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or any broadway turns up.) and fails to get any kind of good value for our BIG hand.

bozzer 11-06-2007 10:34 AM

Re: NL50 - stack off with AA I guess?
 
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I think calling the donk bet blows - we are obv going to get allin if raised with a hand this strong - flat calling the flop donk sets us up for all kinds of trouble later in the hand (particularly if a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or any broadway turns up.) and fails to get any kind of good value for our BIG hand.

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ehh i thought calling the flop with an overpair when likely to be facing a big draw/set dominated range was semi-standard... if we get ai on flop we're often flipping or dead, whereas if we call he's not giving himself odds if he pots flop and we get ai on a blank turn, while we sometimes minimise our losses vs sets.

against this hand i'm obviously happy to get it in on the flop.


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