Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

Villain is new to the table so no reads or stats. How's this hand played and should I stack off here?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $50.20
CO: $24
BTN: $158.25
Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $46.05
UTG: $70.35

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

im folding 10J pre OOP to an UTG raise.
I stack off here. if you're not willing too why call with the draw on a paired board in the first place? with the UTG raise AQ KK AA are all playing it this way. 33 is unlikely and if its 55 then its a cooler

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

fold preflop, not worth seeing the flop oop

there is no way I fold here, most likely you'll be up against a pair/qx/air

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

You beat 9-high and T-high flush? but would he raise with that pf utg? answer: NO. You're way ahead vs AQ and wb vs higher flush. I don't want to do the math, maybe someone can give the pokerstove numbers. His range is AK AQ maybe KQ sometimes even KK but less likely. all depends on suits. does he have the nuts flush or does he have trips.

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

I am stacking off here. If I donk here its for this exact thing to happen, so I can get it in over a raise. I think you see AA with a club, KK with a club and trips often enough.

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

No. I think villain has put you on the flush draw, knows he has it beat, and is pricing you out on purpose. You have 9 outs - the way this played, I don't see any way pairing your T or 9 will win this. That makes you about 4 to 1 against winning against any kind of made, high-card hand, and still a bit worse than 2 to 1 against winning against just Ace high. Are you really ready to gamble your stack that this complete unknown is running a bluff? I wouldn't.

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

I fold this preflop very often against an unknown.

I check/call this down. If he has AQ, KQ, QT or whatever, the money is going in. If he has a bigger flush, the money is going in, too. If he has a pair, he might get away from it when you bet there. The only thing you really fear is a 4th flushcard, imo.

As played, I push.

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

I don't mind pf ... tho I prefer the two other options


As played I'm going broke [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

Fold preflop unless everyone else calls UTG's raise, then I wouldn't mind a call, implied odds etc...

As played though, I guess you'll have to push.

Re: Should I stack off here against unknown?
 

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I don't mind pf ... tho I prefer the two other options


As played I'm going broke [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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