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OSUGreg1983 11-03-2007 11:59 PM

K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $12.25
UTG: $14.05
MP: $5.45
CO: $5.10
Hero (BTN): $10
SB: $13.55

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.80</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.50</font>

Micro Donk 11-04-2007 12:01 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
fold preflop both times, KJo is a crappy hand, full of reverse implied odds

as played...i think i play it the same on the flop

Schiester 11-04-2007 12:20 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
Sorry, didn't see you were on the button. Raising this on the button is fine to me if its folded to me.

I'll almost always fold to the 3bet though.

Berky 11-04-2007 12:40 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
I fold preflop but I'm felting this on the flop.

mystro 11-04-2007 12:43 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
I raise PF as you did, but fold to reraise, especially from BB, but on the flop I am happy to get it all in, this is about as good a flop as you can hope with KJo :S

Micro Donk 11-04-2007 01:14 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
raising PF sucks, just fold it

Schiester 11-04-2007 01:21 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
KJo is still in the top 1/8th of hands. For the sake of a blind steal here this is fine imo. If you're called you have position with a potentially (yet often dominated I admit) reasonable hand.

I personally only raise this when the blinds are tight enough that I have a reasonable chance of getting away with this pf most of the time.

Calling the 3bet is the main problem here.

Schiester 11-04-2007 01:23 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
Opps. Sorry. I thought pf was folded around.

I am certain to fold in this situation.

Sorry Micro.

Micro Donk 11-04-2007 01:24 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
yea if it was folded to us on the button, its an easy raise...but not with 3 limpers. if its suited i may limp behind

ICMoney 11-04-2007 02:10 AM

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 
You have less than a PSR.


Pot is 12:8 so you need 40%.

You are 41% against jj+.

He might fold every once in a while.

Rake hurts a little.

A call is prob slightly +ev, maybe neutral.

Slight rewards, high variance.

I just shove it in.



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