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Damntra 11-03-2007 04:32 PM

NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($3)
MP2 ($6.15)
CO ($1.93)
Button ($4.65)
SB ($9.95)
BB ($10.66)
Hero ($10)
UTG+1 ($2.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.15, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.27) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, MP2 calls $0.80, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.53</font>, Hero calls $0.73, MP2 calls $0.73.

Turn: ($5.86) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Should I have folded preflop to CO reraise?

I should have realized that the cutoff didn't have enough for me reraise if he shoved on flop.

What's the proper play on the turn to try and get MP2's remaining $4 in? C/c, c/r or lead out and if so, for his remaining stack or try and get him to call a turn bet and then a river bet?

RapidEvolution 11-03-2007 04:50 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
Any reads on the villain? If he's not a spewtard I fold to the preflop 3bet. He's likely either got a high pair, or a hand that dominates you...plus, you're at a loss if, for some reason, MP2 decides to shove. I'd bet out on the turn, since he's called everything else, but hasn't raised. IMO, he'll check behind you if you check. MP2 has a stack&lt;the the pot so might as well shove him in here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW Where in NY are you? I'm in the BX.

Damntra 11-03-2007 04:52 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Any reads on the villain? If he's not a spewtard I fold to the preflop 3bet. He's likely either got a high pair, or a hand that dominates you...plus, you're at a loss if, for some reason, MP2 decides to shove. I'd bet out on the turn, since he's called everything else, but hasn't raised. IMO, he'll check behind you if you check. MP2 has a stack&lt;the the pot so might as well shove him in here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW Where in NY are you? I'm in the BX.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm in Queens.

No read on the villain.

RapidEvolution 11-03-2007 04:54 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
Yeah, without reads, I think this is a fold, preflop. With his stack that short, it's really just worth it to play KQ as a top pair hand, and if you make TP, chances are villain will have you outkicked.

Teddie 11-03-2007 05:01 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
Fold pre-flop, and definitly fold whn you get re-raised.

Shephard 11-03-2007 05:15 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold pre-flop, and definitly fold whn you get re-raised.

[/ QUOTE ]
and bet on the turn, there are 2 flush draws, i wuld bet something like $3.40

Damntra 11-03-2007 05:24 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
What's the earliest position you open the pot with K/Qo?

And do you just limp or raise (I really don't like limping to open the pot)

Shephard 11-03-2007 05:28 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
depends on the table, but mp2 is normally the first position i play KQo and i always raise it

AllTheCheese 11-03-2007 05:55 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
I open-raise KQ from 3rd position on in 9-max (open-fold otherwise). As others have said, fold preflop. Shove turn, obv.

ActionStan 11-03-2007 06:12 PM

Re: NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.
 
I'm quite a bit tighter pre-flop that these guys. I don't start opening my range until the hijack. I would start playing things like KQo from the hijack and I would play it for a raise. I wouldn't call a raise with it.


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