20+2: Yeah
 

Hero (3,932), CO
Villain (2000), button

30/60

Folds, Villain raises to 180 with Ad7d, Villain calls, all fold.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets 290, Villain takes a little time and calls.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, Villain bets 410, Hero all in.

Yes?

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

I don't see what value there is to shoving the turn unless you have him on a flush draw either without an A or with an A with a worse kicker, both of which seem pretty unlikely. I think this folds out a lot of Q hands.

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

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I don't see what value there is to shoving the turn unless you have him on a flush draw either without an A or with an A with a worse kicker, both of which seem pretty unlikely. I think this folds out a lot of Q hands.

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He has 1100 left after he bets. So, what do I do here? Just call. And then when the flush draw hits, give it up? What if I call and the flush hits or another Q / J / K / 10. Isn't the pot big enough to just move in for the kill here?

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

The flop call makes me think he believes you are c betting and his mid/small pair or overcards (maybe with flush draw) is good.
His turn bet is weak here, I think all in is fine given you've probably induced a bluff.

If he has a set its just bad luck.

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

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The flop call makes me think he believes you are c betting and his mid/small pair or overcards (maybe with flush draw) is good.
His turn bet is weak here, I think all in is fine given you've probably induced a bluff.

If he has a set its just bad luck.

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This is what I'm thinking as well.

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

Not bumping, but take the "K" out of my last example, because QK definitely repops here.

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

i still dont even know who has what, i cant follow the HH....

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

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i still dont even know who has what, i cant follow the HH....

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I'm sorry, I have the Ad7d.
Barry

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

Barry, this looks good.

Villain probably won't put any more money in unless he improves on river, and on a board like this draws are a good chunk of his range, so make him pay.

Re: 20+2: Yeah
 

I like it a lot. I don't want to give a free card on this board. Any J or 10 is kinda bad for you, and obviously any heart or Q is disastrous. If he does have a Q, your best shot at getting value out of it is definitely on the turn. I don't see getting much value on the river and depending on the river, it might even be hard for you to put a value bet out there once he checks to you.

If he has a set, well GG as this is why sets get paid off.