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Kevin8423 11-03-2007 03:02 AM

$16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
Does anyone play this any differently? I normally cbet here but with only 1000 at the flop its a big chunk of my stack to bet 350 or so and fold to a shove.

River I figure its hardly ever an Ace so I can get extra value here with a small raise.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1330)
UTG+1 (t3620)
Hero (t1310)
Button (t3570)
SB (t2080)
BB (t1590)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t150

Flop: (t475) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t475) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t475) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t200

vers 11-03-2007 03:09 AM

Re: $16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
BB defending for 150 more isn't as concerning as someone calling behind you w/ position. Villain checks flop so I cbet here 300 and probably muck to shove. Stacks do kinda suck here. I just don't want a J to roll off and screw you over when you could've otherwise picked up the pot on the flop. Riv I just flat call the donk bet. You don't want to open yourself up to a shove, can't forget the possibility of villain slowplaying hands here.

PepsPersson 11-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: $16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
Only thing I do differently is I may throw in a bet on turn, and I wouldn't raise river here. I know there are alot of bad players out there, but I would never call a raise there with a worse hand than KK if I where villain.

eurythmech 11-03-2007 11:25 AM

Re: $16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
I def check behind flop vs some opponents, cbet usually works, though.

I like the turn check.

Don't like the river raise.

Kevin8423 11-03-2007 12:59 PM

Re: $16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
Hmm I think at $16s you get called pretty often there by worse hands, its probably pretty thin though.

eurythmech 11-03-2007 01:36 PM

Re: $16 - 50/100, KK w/ shortish stack on an Axx flop
 
I def see villain looking you up with worse hands, but $16 oppos...I dunno. He could have [censored] AQ here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

It's very thin, and if anything I personally prefer to err on the side of cutting down on variance.


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