200NL - 2x KK Hands
 

Just have a few queries about a couple of KK hands. love to know your thoughts.


HAND 1-----------------------------------------

No stats on the Villain to this point, although he had opened the mp2 & cut-off two or three times before when he was folded to him. Just want to know what you do on the river, whether or not you put the $41 more you have behind in or you just call?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $199
BTN: $254.55
SB: $61
BB: $372.60
UTG: $431.55
UTG+1: $198.45
UTG+2: $200
MP1: $391.10
MP2: $266

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
4 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $16

Flop: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, MP2 calls $36

<font color="green">Bet more here or good?</font>

Turn: ($119) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

<font color="green">I think he raises me on the flop if he has a set so there isn't much danger in checking this behind. I'm either way ahead or way behind an ace here. Checking behind gives him the opportunity to believe his smaller club is good, or bluff the river. </font>


River: ($119) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $100</font>, Hero with $141 in his stack just calls or raises???

MP2 bets $100, Hero with $141 in his stack just calls or raises???

Also, if he checks river, how much do you value bet?

HAND 2-----------------------------------------
I've been reading more and more replies to posts saying that 4-betting isn't really part of their game. I'm wondering if that applies in this situation or whether you would have pumped this pre-flop. It kind of feels un-natural to me to flat call this pre-flop and let the original raiser in with a good price, but at the same time is basically exposes my hand face up on the table by four-betting.

UTG+2 is 13/8/3.7 over 150 hands
MP2 is 18/8/5.8 over 211 hands

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $380.45
UTG: $243.80
UTG+1: $213.25
UTG+2: $319.50
MP1: $426.05
MP2: $438.35
CO: $171.90
BTN: $382.10
SB: $201.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $8</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $21</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $19, UTG+2 calls $13

<font color="green">Is this a bad spot to apply the don't 4-bet school of thinking? If you do put in the 4th bet what do you raise it to?</font>

Flop: ($64) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 2 folds

<font color="green">Bet/shove &gt; c/r? and did I c/r too much?</font>

Results: $144 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and WON $141 (+$80 NET)

Re: 200NL - 2x KK Hands
 

I think you played both hands appropriately.