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shpanko 11-02-2007 02:45 AM

I c/f an overpair
 
Villain is 16/13 over 600 hands, i have 22/17 image. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $198
CO: $205
BTN: $238.60
SB: $439.70
BB: $475.10
UTG: $260.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, CO calls $10, 2 folds, BB calls $8, UTG folds

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $23</font>, CO calls $23, BB folds

Turn: ($79) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $60</font>, Hero folds

Results: $79 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO mucked and WON $76 (+$43 NET)

Chaos_ult 11-02-2007 02:45 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
sjf;g;l

Novles 11-02-2007 02:47 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Doubt you're gonna like the responses you get but I've certainly done this occassionaly when the combination of image, flow, timing, etc. just makes it feel like a fold.

Chaos_ult 11-02-2007 02:48 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Definitely agree lots of spots like this are flow dependent.

On the surface it seems really bad though.

tarheeljks 11-02-2007 03:04 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
looks bad in a vacuum and you haven't given any reads to justify it.

LT22 11-02-2007 03:05 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
3 ways maybe, but he has AJ/KJ/QJ and mid pairs enuf here to call

shpanko 11-02-2007 03:20 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Yeah I think I should've just b/f'ed here instead of c/f. His cold call percentage was ridiculously low though (0.6) so I felt like his range for cold calling was mainly pocket pairs. I was going to c/c the turn and then re-evaluate on the river but then he bet a fairly large amount and it seemed he really wanted to get stacks in so I folded.

So yeah you guys like a b/f muc much better yeah? I mean I doubt he'd be raising worse.

shpanko 11-02-2007 03:21 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Now that I think about it he'd probably make this same bet with AJ, ugh I butchered this hand. I think I like b/f a lot more now. Ok sorry for the crap hand guys. I'll post a more interesting one in a sec [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

oh well... 11-02-2007 04:03 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Preetttty bad, but we've certainly seen much worse.

Imrahil 11-02-2007 10:08 AM

Re: I c/f an overpair
 
Not terrible but b/f is much better.


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