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Prodigy54321 11-01-2007 10:57 PM

25 - low set...fold this river?
 
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $37.20
SB: $21.05
BB: $24.40
UTG: $23.85
MP: $37.10
Hero (CO): $24.65

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $6

River: ($19.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $14.60 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

villain is 19/7/.5 over 58 hands

Speedlimits 11-01-2007 11:00 PM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
cawl

msbviper 11-01-2007 11:39 PM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
I like how this hand was played. I know villian's sample size is small, but do you think he would bet a flush draw into 2 others on the turn. I think it's a call, and if you got coolered, it's unfortunate.

TheBobn 11-01-2007 11:46 PM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
I probably fold based on his aggression factor. If you've seen him overvalue hands before, I'd call expecting to see QJ a lot of the time, but without a read besides his aggression, I think this is a reluctant fold.

Profish2285 11-01-2007 11:52 PM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
I think youre beat here. Im not sure if villain would bet a flush draw here, but he could have flopped or turned a straight. People love to limp suited connectors in all positions. Im not sure why he would shove this river, but maybe he thinks his hand is still best and is afraid you will check behind. I dont like calling these bets until I get a good read here on villain. Then of course there is also the possibility he really did bet a flush draw into 2 others, maybe something like AJss or even A8ss.

doppelganger 11-01-2007 11:53 PM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
I fold. I think this is actually a slow played flopped straight, but could easily be the flush. I think it's one of those more often than 2 pair.

whyherro 11-02-2007 01:08 AM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
how fast did he push? timing tells are really good in this spot.

Hail Eris 11-02-2007 01:14 AM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
He has 9T or backdoor spades, maybe an overset. No hands take this line that we beat, especially from a nit like this.

bknollenberg 11-02-2007 01:17 AM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
He has 9T or backdoor spades, maybe an overset. No hands take this line that we beat, especially from a nit like this.

[/ QUOTE ]
QJ doesn't take that line?

bknollenberg 11-02-2007 01:23 AM

Re: 25 - low set...fold this river?
 
i really don't think this is a flush because the fact that it seems obvious that he has a flush leaves a lot of money on the table for him. if he does have the flush he totally misplayed it (because he played it exactly like someone would if they had the flush). that and turn call is heinous given his stack size and calling 6 into a 12ish pot lol. i don't know, i'm going to take an unpopular opinion and say we're good here. if you ended up calling, please PM me the results if you don't mind. i think we're only beat by 910 here, especially if he autoshoved (lol i've done that so many times, a card that breaks your nuts, you instashove while saying "FU IF YOU HIT THAT CALL THIS I HAD THE NUTS GOSIFDNOAINFS!"


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