PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

Loose passive table (as you can see from this hand)

UTG+1 leads the betting but everyone calls giving me good enough (well almost good enough lol)odds to call behind

Make my straight on the river but should I bet, check/call or check/raise?

I hate betting the non-nut straight and often check/call

Am I missing out on value?

iPoker Omaha (PL20), $0.20 BB (9 handed) SilverKitty Hand History converter by www.pokeronline.com.ua

CO ($81.51)
Button ($17.5)
SB($29.86)
Hero($44.09)
UTG+1($27.07)
UTG+2($20.62)
MP1 ($21.62)
MP2 ($24.74)
MP3 ($19.8)

SB: Post SB $0.10
Hero: Post BB $0.20

Preflop:
Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG+1 Call $0.2
UTG+2 Call $0.2
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>
CO Call $0.2
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
SB Call $0.1
Hero Check

Flop:($1) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(5 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Check
<font color="#CC2222">UTG+1 Bet $0.6</font>
UTG+2 Call $0.6
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>
SB Call $0.6
Hero Call $0.6

Turn:($3.4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(4 players)</font>
SB Check
Hero Check
<font color="#CC2222">UTG+1 Bet $2</font>
UTG+2 Call $2
SB Call $2
Hero Call $2

River:($11.4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]<font color="#0030DD">(4 players)</font>

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

I bet/ call here. Really hard to see anyone with 36xx type hand getting past the flop here.

FWIW I play a fair bit in this game on iPoker.

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

I dont have any idea about Omaha Hi, but i think calling that flop bet is pretty spewy, we have 0 outs to the nuts :/

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

Uh no. Hero has 4 nut outs on flop.

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

oh yes you are right
reading the board is hard from time to time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

is it still a call?

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

I dislike flop call because when you are drawing to straights multiway in omaha it is common to have shared outs. Once hero gets to the turn and improves his call on turn is automatic. River question is dependant on whether anyone will take a stab. If people wont take a stab, I bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot.

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

[ QUOTE ]
Once hero gets to the turn and improves his call on turn is automatic

[/ QUOTE ] He has 9 diamonds to the nut flush, 4 Kings to the nut straight. Someone could have 63xx with a really good xx but I'll disregard that for the moment. With 13 outs, Hero should make his hand around half the time right? If everyone played equally well, he should win one quarter of the pot. Now would not it be right to raise as much as possible?

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

13 outs with one street to go is far less than 50% to make a hand. Hero makes his hand about 1 in 3 times since we have no information about the other players hands and if we assume bettor has bare set. if we raise we only knock out weak draws that only take a little bit of our equity away, while allowing the set to get allin on turn. If hero had 15 outs on the flop, shoving might be warranted.

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

Add the 4 outs to the non-nut wheel.

Re: PLO .20 Make the Low End Straight - Bet or Call?
 

This factors in the 3 non diamond 5 outs as 13 nut outs. 7 non pairing diamond. 3 kings, 3 5s. 3 9s if you dont mind non nut outs.