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jk3a 10-31-2007 07:35 PM

3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
Villain is 25/20/3 thru 500 hands. I know he calls 3bets light which makes me kinda indifferent about pf.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $351.35
CO: $235.40
BTN: $83.75
SB: $200
Hero (BB): $215.75
UTG: $174

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, CO calls $20

Flop: ($57) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($57) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, CO calls $30

River: ($117) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $70</font>

manupod 10-31-2007 07:43 PM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
I call pf more often than I 3bet, to be honest. Turn bet is good. River is blah- I think it's prob about neutral- but I'd look to fold, as this is prob hearts or Ax spades or something more often than it's 99 or KJ trying to bluff.

RivFader 10-31-2007 07:55 PM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
I'd call. His line just doesn't make any sense. What A could he have? AK would 4-bet pre, AJ and AQ probably stabs flop, Ax spades definetely bets it. And if he didn't stab the flop, would he float the turn ? Possibly but it's a long shot. Backdoor flush is possible but very unlikely.

Edit: Also in his eyes the A is a good card to bluff.

jk3a 10-31-2007 08:48 PM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
While I think it's difficult for him to have an Ace, I think it's hard for him to have a hand he's bluffing with too.

deaders 10-31-2007 08:50 PM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
[ QUOTE ]
? AK would 4-bet pre, AJ and AQ probably stabs flop, Ax spades definetely bets it. And if he didn't stab the flop, would he float the turn ? Possibly but it's a long shot. Backdoor flush is possible but very unlikely.



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Dont agree with any of this.

SinkRox 11-01-2007 03:51 AM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
If he's calling pf light then it must be with the intention of bluffing/stealing post-flop a decent amount, and here his line doesnt make much sense plus ours doesnt look too strong, all you've done is rep the K and now it doesnt look like we hold AK. So, I probably call and get shown AT [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

gimmetheloot 11-01-2007 03:56 AM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
foooooooooooooooooooooooooold he has AK.

deaders 11-01-2007 04:01 AM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
yeah i think fold btw

Bigmoney 11-01-2007 04:46 AM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
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foooooooooooooooooooooooooold he has AK.

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no way

history dependent imo, without much its a c/f

RivFader 11-01-2007 08:59 AM

Re: 3bet, Give Up, Get There, Now What?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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? AK would 4-bet pre, AJ and AQ probably stabs flop, Ax spades definetely bets it. And if he didn't stab the flop, would he float the turn ? Possibly but it's a long shot. Backdoor flush is possible but very unlikely.



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Dont agree with any of this.

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Lol this is so great and insightful reply. Can you give any reasons, probably not?


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