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SABR42 10-31-2007 03:36 PM

200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
No reads.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $189.85
UTG+1: $51.65
UTG+2: $487.85
MP1: $252.20
MP2: $394.35
CO: $186
BTN: $29.05
Hero (SB): $239
BB: $198

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, MP2 calls $2, CO folds, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $11
<font color="blue"> Villain folds most of his range to a 3-bet, so I just called. </font>

Turn: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20
<font color="blue"> Meh, I don't think a raise here has much value, since I'm no longer a favorite against Q7 or higher. </font>

River: ($80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks
<font color="blue"> Meh, I don't think villain calls with worse if I bet anything significant. Maybe if he's really crazy he'll try a retarded bluff. Do I lose too much value checking here? Should I bet something small like $30 instead? </font>

too eazy 10-31-2007 03:37 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
i think you need to threebet this flop very small. calling is very fishy.

i prefer to half pot the river as played.

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 03:44 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
I would 3bet this flop, particuarly because I'm 3betting a lot of big pairs on this flop.

SABR42 10-31-2007 03:45 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
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particuarly because I'm 3betting a lot of big pairs on this flop.

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Wait what?

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 03:53 PM

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particuarly because I'm 3betting a lot of big pairs on this flop.

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Wait what?

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I don't know. People stack off to me a lot on flops like this with far less than a Q. Assuming you raise a lot and 3bet a lot then you will get handed stacks by 77-TT all the time by 3betting this flop with JJ+. Maybe its just me though.

too eazy 10-31-2007 03:56 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
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particuarly because I'm 3betting a lot of big pairs on this flop.

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Wait what?

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I don't know. People stack off to me a lot on flops like this with far less than a Q. Assuming you raise a lot and 3bet a lot then you will get handed stacks by 77-TT all the time by 3betting this flop with JJ+. Maybe its just me though.

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You pretty much got it. And I say to 3bet him small so he thinks he sitll has FE + Outs w/ AK etc.

SABR42 10-31-2007 03:57 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
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I don't know. People stack off to me a lot on flops like this with far less than a Q. Assuming you raise a lot and 3bet a lot then you will get handed stacks by 77-TT all the time by 3betting this flop with JJ+. Maybe its just me though.

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Err, this is a 4-way limped pot, you realize that?

too eazy 10-31-2007 03:57 PM

Re: 200 NL, full house played very slowly.
 
also, you have exposed a big leak in posting this sabr, PM me for more info.

CalledDownLight 10-31-2007 04:02 PM

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I don't know. People stack off to me a lot on flops like this with far less than a Q. Assuming you raise a lot and 3bet a lot then you will get handed stacks by 77-TT all the time by 3betting this flop with JJ+. Maybe its just me though.

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Err, this is a 4-way limped pot, you realize that?

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For some reason I thought it was raised pre. I still 3bet the flop though.

SABR42 10-31-2007 04:08 PM

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For some reason I thought it was raised pre.

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Phew, I thought I was going insane.

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I still 3bet the flop though.

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Most of the time I do it too, I'm just playing badly right now. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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