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HermannTL 10-30-2007 08:25 PM

QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero...

Early in a session on a very fishy table, no detailed reads. UTG+1 is a 52/9.6/2.2 who has played some silly hands. MP2 is 52/0/0.4. MP3 concerns me a bit at 16/0/0.5. BB is 39/5.6.

I think I should raise to find out where I stand...and the BB and the middle players aren't acting like they have a King.

Aaron W. 10-30-2007 08:31 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
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I think I should raise to find out where I stand

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*sigh*

tiltaholic 10-30-2007 08:33 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
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PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero...

Early in a session on a very fishy table, no detailed reads. UTG+1 is a 52/9.6/2.2 who has played some silly hands. MP2 is 52/0/0.4. MP3 concerns me a bit at 16/0/0.5. BB is 39/5.6.

I think I should raise to find out where I stand...and the BB and the middle players aren't acting like they have a King.

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raising could be good, but only if UTG+1 does weird things, like bet into pf raisers with bad cards for fun.

BadBigBabar 10-30-2007 08:37 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
i fold right away on the flop. someone has a king or better always here.

kbdunn 10-30-2007 08:39 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
Nearly closing the action with a BDSD and a decently coordinated board, I think its close between folding and calling.

neurotiq 10-30-2007 09:12 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
I'd fold this guy. It looked good preflop; it doesn't look good any more. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Point Blank 10-30-2007 09:22 PM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
if I had the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or board wasn't two flushed I would consider calling ...

this is an easy fold ...

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I think I should raise to find out where I stand

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this will have people yelling at you for sure ... read some other posts please

scpi10 10-31-2007 12:53 AM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
grunch

Calling is better than raiseing IMO. You're likely behind so just call and reevaluate on the turn.

KitCloudkicker 10-31-2007 12:54 AM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
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I think I should raise to find out where I stand


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stop doing that.

fold the flop and save your 2 small bets.

KitCloudkicker 10-31-2007 12:58 AM

Re: QQ 2nd pair on the flop
 
stop raising for information, says ed


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