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chrismystero 10-30-2007 04:00 PM

check behind or value-bet?
 
readless at table, just got in a few hands ago. Yes, I know I could have bought in for $10, but here's the hand anyways.

Should I be checking behind here or value-betting?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($10.24)
UTG ($5.93)
MP ($10.78)
CO ($10.86)
Hero ($5.26)
SB ($13.53)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.27) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25.

Turn: ($1.27) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

River: ($3.52) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

Ra_ 10-30-2007 04:05 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
I'd bet. Aces pay you off alot, and i don't think your looking at a boat or 67 from either opponent.

UFGatorGuy 10-30-2007 04:07 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
Always always always have a full stack, even though you said you know.. just need to reiterate that.

I definitely value bet here, if either of these players has a full house or 67, they would have bet at some point during the hand. Trips or 2 pair is more likely for both villains.

JesseB_11 10-30-2007 04:08 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
Bet/fold. You will get called by 2 pair type hands and if one of them raises you get away. Checking loses more value then when you have to bet/fold.

chrismystero 10-30-2007 05:30 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
ok, here is part 2 of my question.

so we bet...what now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($10.24)
UTG ($5.93)
MP ($10.78)
CO ($10.86)
Hero ($5.26)
SB ($13.53)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.27) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25.

Turn: ($1.27) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

River: ($3.52) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, MP calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $9.81</font>, Hero ...

Bigka79 10-30-2007 05:33 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
i call river and expect to split with a moron who is wanting to pay more in rake. then i berate him and get my chat banned.

on another note i doubt he has a boat as he probably is raising a set, or 2 pr on the turn. i wouldnt be suprised to see an ace and scooping the whole pot.

then it brings in to consideration 67 but i think hes more likeley to have an ace or a 6 putting u on an ace

chrismystero 10-30-2007 05:54 PM

Re: check behind or value-bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bet/fold. You will get called by 2 pair type hands and if one of them raises you get away. Checking loses more value then when you have to bet/fold.

[/ QUOTE ]
Is doing this possible? The bet of $1.50 left me $2.71 behind and this is 5NL. I personally know Jesse (the person I'm quoting) and know he is a solid player but I'm not quite sure I agree with bet/folding river.


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