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Gelin1 10-30-2007 03:47 PM

NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
villain is playing 25/6.5/0.2 over 75 hands. I'm mostly interested in how much to bet on the river. I was choosing between a psb or simply shoving. And also, is it better to 3-bet pf?


Titan Poker 0.05/0.10, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button zerocoolby ($11.82)
SB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($14.14)</font>
BB CheeZeZ ($6.89)
UTG nunorod ($9.53)
UTG+1 TTR68029992 ($9.34)
CO <font color="#C00000">TTR64200752 ($15.29)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, TTR64200752 raises to 0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls 0.35, 1 fold.

Flop (0.90) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets 0.70, TTR64200752 calls 0.70.

Turn (2.30) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets 2.00, TTR64200752 calls 2.00.

River (6.30) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero

UFGatorGuy 10-30-2007 03:57 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
Hero bets 5.5 and hopefully gets called. He's passive, so don't try to induce a bluff. He most likely won't call a shove, so I go for a straight value bet here. As for 3betting pre.. eh, that could go either way. I probably wouldn't as he seems to have a tight opening range and will probably call a 3bet and I don't want to play a big pot OOP with 99.

Profish2285 10-30-2007 04:38 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
Altho this is a small sample, his AF is so low and he seems to raise only 1/4 of the hands he plays. I dont think 99 is ahead of his range if he is raising pre flop. He doesnt have the stats to indicate that he likes to steal alot, but I dont know for sure obviously. I like a flat call pre flop here. I like that you donked into him and the bet sizes are good. I would bet around 5 or so on the river and expect a call from all kings, and a fold from whiffed draws obviously.

infinity235 10-30-2007 04:41 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
I'm OOP. I'm playing a 25/6 guy. Even if he is horrible postflop, I go for straight set value here PF.

Shoving river accomplishes nothing unless you've seen him calling river overbets. Value bet 4.5 and pray he calls.

Bigka79 10-30-2007 04:56 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
bets like 4.5-5 i think we might get a call but im unsure. i dont know what else we would be considering on this river

Gelin1 10-30-2007 05:02 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
Reason I asked is that I bet 6 and got an instacall from KQ. I figured since a lot of ppl on this level pretty much can't fold anything, a shove might get looked up since it looks kind of bluffy

Aceium 10-30-2007 05:02 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
Since you just called preflop and then donked out on this flop, I'm guessing he has at least something to call you down with. He didn't raise either of your bets so his hand isn't defined as ultra-strong or anything; but there's no reason to think that he'll fold to a bet here if he didn't fold earlier. He could be playing a big AsXs.

I think if you bet about $5-$6 you could get a call out of a strong one pair hand or any two pair hand.

Profish2285 10-30-2007 05:03 PM

Re: NL10 Set oop vs passive player
 
Shoving has psychological effects on many players. A person will be more willing to call a strong bet more often than they will a shove.


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