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The Dude 10-30-2007 03:16 PM

Fun w/ AKs
 
Bellagio 30-60. BB in this hand is a 50ish Asian guy who knows how to play tight, winning poker, but gets frustrated easily. He's not the best player postflop, but he's not terrible either. He's just lost a couple hands, so I'm assuming he's on tilt right now. Also, I've been raising and 3betting a lot the past two orbits (specifically him a couple times, too).

Preflop:
The Dude raises A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG. Folded to BB who hesitates (the vibe I got was that he almost folded) and calls.

Flop: (4.67 SBs) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
BB checks, The Dude bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.33 BBs) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks, The Dude bets, BB calls.

River (5.33 BBs) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB donks. The Dude...?

BadBigBabar 10-30-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
i'd just call

KitCloudkicker 10-30-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
meh id raise if i can easily fold to 3

if not call

private joker 10-30-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
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i'd just call

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Me too, although this is one of those times where I'm sure you're never getting 3-bet by a worse hand so you can fold 100% of the time, and he seems like the kind of guy who would cry-call a raise with a worse hand fairly often.

That said, he also doesn't sound like the type to donk out here with a marginal one pair hand like a worse A, so either he's totally bluffing or he has JT/AJ/KQ in which case there's absolutely no value in a raise.

I think it goes without saying that folding is not the best play either, so I'm settling on call, move on to the next hand, etc.

Justin A 10-30-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
I think the answer depends a lot on how quickly and confidently he called on the turn. As a default I think both raising and folding are bad.

BadBigBabar 10-30-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
raisefold seems like awful spew to me; what is he gonna call with that we beat - a2? he'll either fold his bluff, or he'll probably just call with better two pair hands all of which beat us, not to mention the times he has the goods and we get 3towned

KitCloudkicker 10-30-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
why wouldnt he go for a river CR if he made two pair? we check an ace here behind never

and if he's tilting he's paying off with Ax always.

Munchkin Mayor 10-30-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
I am sure he has J,10. Call.

KitCloudkicker 10-30-2007 03:39 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
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I am sure he has J,10. Call.

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this doesnt make sense.

if you're sure then you should fold.

Munchkin Mayor 10-30-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Fun w/ AKs
 
[ QUOTE ]
why wouldnt he go for a river CR if he made two pair? we check an ace here behind never



[/ QUOTE ]

A lot of people will bet out if they hit their two pair, rather than hoping for a check raise, especially if their bingo card could give the guy behind a reason to check.


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