top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $853.80 24/19/3/24
BTN: $655
SB: $555
Hero (BB): $1,298.20
UTG: $419.71
MP: $1,118.45 20/16/4/23

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $6, <font color="red">MP raises to $27</font>, CO calls $27, 2 folds, Hero calls $21, UTG folds

Flop: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $69</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $300</font>, CO calls $300, Hero folds

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

I fold this preflop.

I think you're ahead here so folding can't be right. Shut yer eyes and shove I reckon.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

if both are decent id let this one go.
with these stack-sizes i play pf the same against most opp.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

thats a gay spot. i dont think id fold this. id shove

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

wait, seriously? how can you not shove here.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

I like.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

so ur worried about 810 and 77...

MP's range includes 77, QQ, KK, AK, 8 10 (the least likely of the possibilities) and maybe a pair w/ a draw

CO could have lots of different hands

So given that we're often ahead of MP's range, I'd push.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

Last I checked JJ and 99 were still in MP's range. Even if only one combination of each.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

I don't think it's an easy fold, but I'm not sure I agree with the easy shove theory either.

MP's hand definitely seems like an overpair, but it's the CO I'd be more worried about. It does look like there's a real chance of a set of 7s or maybe even Js or 9s. If you do push, aren't you hoping for the very best case scenario that both have an overpair or are on big draws (or just possibly someone overplaying TPTK)?

Still, one of my 'notes to self' says, in general, just grit your teeth and get stuck in with TTP on the flop. I'd probably do just that but not feeling hugely confident.

One final thought: Is calling and seeing the turn another way of playing it? If the turn's a brick (ie a low card that doesn't help a flush or straight draw) push or, if it's a scare card, check and re-assess after your opponents have acted. Given the action, you're not exactly giving a free card by playing it that way and you should have a better chance of pushing someone off a strong draw rather than simply gambling.

Re: top 2 getting much action deep easy fold?
 

If MP has an overpair, he should be calling, not raising. Whether he's good enough to know that is anyone's guess.